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To: Soliton

Well there is the problem....they often do take their kids to the churches who teach them that Christ is a living faith to be lived and taught no matter what the circumstances....another words a non compartmentalized world view.

These kids then enter a school system which tells them that they can have any sort of self, non compartmentalized world view they want except to express ideas about faith and Jesus Christ;that is compartmentalization of thought and situational ethics. They end up not only mistrusting religion which doesn’t seem to be “scientific” but they also end up not developing a true respect for science because the way the schools teach it strips the humanity from the human...science offers no hope...just a certain enoxorable philosphy that all things lead to entropy and chaos. Our secular schools create “men without chests”! And every-one wonders why our schools are failing??!!

In the end it will always be about faith vs materialism...trite little comments about tax dollars don’t even begin to define the depth of the conflict.


89 posted on 08/25/2008 1:29:51 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

Then why not send their kids to private school?


91 posted on 08/25/2008 1:35:06 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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“The educational system of Jesus was rooted in an utterly different approach: living in and with a community, so that theology was not only taught but also lived in the context of community prayer. Jesus’ educational system is not objective in the least—it is decidedly not interested in knowledge that helps us remain unbiased and neutral about life. Instead, it is profoundly subjective, that is, concerned with creating an irrational loyalty to Jesus and over-the-top concern for others. It is not the mind that is the center of attention but the whole person—mind, body, and spirit—and the whole person in community.

This type of education is costly in other ways. My wife and I supplemented our children’s Sunday school by encouraging their participation in Christian summer camps, running anywhere from two to eight weeks in length. These intense experiences can transform people for a simple reason—they imitate the Jesus model of education outlined above. But such camps are not cheap, and I have sometimes been sorely tempted to tell my kids to skip them and other similar experiences.

I need to be regularly reminded that the cost of discipleship is not paid just by people who suffer persecution. For people like me, it costs money (maybe even helping other families send their kids to camp!). And it costs time. And vulnerability. In the life of faith, we certainly need classrooms and curriculum. But we especially need community, where two or three are gathered to work out their education in Jesus—face to face, so we shall know more fully, even as we have already been fully known.”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/122-43.0.html?start=2


92 posted on 08/25/2008 1:47:16 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: mdmathis6

“The educational system of Jesus was rooted in an utterly different approach: living in and with a community, so that theology was not only taught but also lived in the context of community prayer. Jesus’ educational system is not objective in the least—it is decidedly not interested in knowledge that helps us remain unbiased and neutral about life. Instead, it is profoundly subjective, that is, concerned with creating an irrational loyalty to Jesus and over-the-top concern for others. It is not the mind that is the center of attention but the whole person—mind, body, and spirit—and the whole person in community.

This type of education is costly in other ways. My wife and I supplemented our children’s Sunday school by encouraging their participation in Christian summer camps, running anywhere from two to eight weeks in length. These intense experiences can transform people for a simple reason—they imitate the Jesus model of education outlined above. But such camps are not cheap, and I have sometimes been sorely tempted to tell my kids to skip them and other similar experiences.

I need to be regularly reminded that the cost of discipleship is not paid just by people who suffer persecution. For people like me, it costs money (maybe even helping other families send their kids to camp!). And it costs time. And vulnerability. In the life of faith, we certainly need classrooms and curriculum. But we especially need community, where two or three are gathered to work out their education in Jesus—face to face, so we shall know more fully, even as we have already been fully known.”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/122-43.0.html?start=2


93 posted on 08/25/2008 1:47:30 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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