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Tropical Storm Fay
NOAA/NHC ^ | 15 August 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 08/15/2008 1:25:37 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The tropical system currently over Hispanola has been teasing weather watchers for days, as hurricane hunters were unable to locate a surface center of circulation. Meanwhile, the system has looked remarkably like a tropical depression for greater than 24 hours. Local Florida weather forecasters are urging Floridians to keep a close eye on this system.

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Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Mississippi
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To: nwctwx; NautiNurse
According to the projected path on weather.com (I know), Fay will be into the Caribbean after lunch Saturday, then pass WELL SOUTH of Cuba until it bends north Sunday evening, crossing western Cuba Monday morning, reaching Key West Monday evening, reaching the Tampa Bay area Tuesday evening, and crossing the Florida Panhandle Wednesday pm. This would be, IMHO, the most dangerous possible course.
81 posted on 08/15/2008 10:41:10 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: NautiNurse; All

000
WTNT31 KNHC 160852
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM FAY ADVISORY NUMBER 3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL062008
500 AM EDT SAT AUG 16 2008

...FAY WILL CROSS HAITI AND EMERGE OVER WATER LATER TODAY...

AT 5 AM EDT...0900 UTC...THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE COAST OF
THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM EAST OF CABO FRANCES VIEJO ON THE
NORTHERN COAST TO SAN PEDRO DE MACORIS ON THE SOUTHERN COAST HAS
BEEN DISCONTINUED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT ALONG THE NORTHERN COAST
OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM CABO FRANCES VIEJO WESTWARD TO THE
NORTHERN BORDER WITH HAITI...AND FOR THE ENTIRE COAST OF HAITI.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FOR THE TURKS AND CAICOS
ISLANDS...THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS...AND THE CUBAN PROVINCES OF
GUANTANAMO...SANTIAGO DE CUBA...AND GRANMA.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE CUBAN PROVINCES OF
HOLGUIN AND LAS TUNAS...AND FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS. TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE IN THE PROVINCES OF CENTRAL CUBA
WITHIN THE NEXT 36 HOURS.

INTERESTS IN WESTERN CUBA...THE FLORIDA KEYS...AND THE SOUTHERN
FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 500 AM EDT...0900 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM FAY WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 18.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 72.0 WEST OR ABOUT 20
MILES... 35 KM...EAST-NORTHEAST OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI AND ABOUT
235 MILES...375 KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF GUANTANAMO CUBA.

FAY IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR. A TURN TOWARD
THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED LATER TODAY...FOLLOWED BY A TURN
TOWARD THE NORTHWEST BY SUNDAY NIGHT. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER
OF FAY WILL MOVE ACROSS HAITI THIS MORNING...AND WILL BE MOVING
NEAR THE SOUTHERN COAST OF EASTERN AND CENTRAL CUBA TONIGHT AND
SUNDAY.

DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 45 MPH...75 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
FAY COULD WEAKEN SLIGHTLY WHILE MOVING OVER HISPANIOLA THIS
MORNING...BUT SOME STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE LATER TODAY AND ON
SUNDAY AFTER THE CENTER MOVES BACK OVER WATER.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1007 MB...29.74 INCHES.

TIDES OF 1 TO 2 FEET FEET ABOVE NORMAL CAN BE EXPECTED IN THE
WARNING AREA IN AREAS OF ONSHORE FLOW.

FAY IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 4 TO 8
INCHES OVER HISPANIOLA...EASTERN AND CENTRAL CUBA...JAMAICA...AND
THE NORTHERN CAYMAN ISLANDS...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 12
INCHES. THESE RAINS COULD PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS
AND MUD SLIDES.

REPEATING THE 500 AM EDT POSITION...18.7 N...72.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 14 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 800 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 1100
AM EDT.

$$
FORECASTER KNABB


82 posted on 08/16/2008 2:07:54 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

Tropical Storm Public Advisory

Statement as of 5:00 am EDT on August 16, 2008

...Fay will cross Haiti and emerge over water later today...

at 5 am EDT...0900 UTC...the Tropical Storm Warning for the coast of
the Dominican Republic from east of Cabo Frances Viejo on the
northern coast to San Pedro de macoris on the southern coast has
been discontinued.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect along the northern coast
of the Dominican Republic from Cabo Frances Viejo westward to the
northern border with Haiti...and for the entire coast of Haiti.

A Tropical Storm Warning is also in effect for the Turks and Caicos
Islands...the southeastern Bahamas...and the Cuban provinces of
Guantanamo...Santiago de Cuba...and Granma.

A tropical storm watch is in effect for the Cuban provinces of
Holguin and Las Tunas...and for the central Bahamas. Tropical storm
conditions are also possible in the provinces of central Cuba
within the next 36 hours.

Interests in western Cuba...the Florida Keys...and the southern
Florida Peninsula should monitor the progress of this system.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

At 500 am EDT...0900 UTC...the center of Tropical Storm Fay was
located near latitude 18.7 north...longitude 72.0 west or about 20
miles... 35 km...east-northeast of Port au Prince Haiti and about
235 miles...375 km...east-southeast of Guantanamo Cuba.

Fay is moving toward the west near 14 mph...22 km/hr. A turn toward
the west-northwest is expected later today...followed by a turn
toward the northwest by Sunday night. On this track...the center
of Fay will move across Haiti this morning...and will be moving
near the southern coast of eastern and central Cuba tonight and
Sunday.

Data from an Air Force reconnaissance aircraft indicate that maximum
sustained winds remain near 45 mph...75 km/hr...with higher gusts.
Fay could weaken slightly while moving over Hispaniola this
morning...but some strengthening is possible later today and on
Sunday after the center moves back over water.

Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 105 miles...165 km
from the center.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1007 mb...29.74 inches.

Tides of 1 to 2 feet feet above normal can be expected in the
warning area in areas of onshore flow.

Fay is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 4 to 8
inches over Hispaniola...eastern and central Cuba...Jamaica...and
the northern Cayman Islands...with isolated maximum amounts of 12
inches. These rains could produce life-threatening flash floods
and mud slides.

Repeating the 500 am EDT position...18.7 N...72.0 W. Movement
toward...west near 14 mph. Maximum sustained winds...45 mph.
Minimum central pressure...1007 mb.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 800 am EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 1100
am EDT.

$$
Forecaster Knabb


83 posted on 08/16/2008 3:36:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse

bump


84 posted on 08/16/2008 3:38:32 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Seinfeld was a show about nothing - so is Obama.)
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Tropical Storm Fay Discussion Number 3

Statement as of 5:00 am EDT on August 16, 2008

even though we cannot determine exactly where the center of Fay is
located...satellite imagery and data from an Air Force
reconnaissance aircraft suggest it is still inland...over
south-central Hispaniola near the border between the Dominican
Republic and Haiti. The Air Force plane circumnavigated the entire
island of Hispaniola during the past few hours...enduring some
rather turbulent conditions...especially within the strongest
thunderstorms near the southern coast...and we appreciate the hard
work of the crew. Flight-level and SFMR data from the aircraft
support maintaining the intensity at 40 kt. Fay remains beneath a
large upper-level anticyclone resulting in well-established outflow
aloft...and despite the interaction with mountainous terrain...the
storm has a relative well-organized appearance in satellite
imagery.

The system appears to be continuing westward at about 270/12 to the
south of a narrow mid-level ridge over the western Atlantic. The
synoptic reasoning...dynamical model tracks...and the official
forecast track are not significantly changed from the previous
advisory. All of the models forecast the mid- to upper-level trough
over the eastern U.S. To gradually erode the ridge during the next
couple of days...allowing Fay to turn to the right into the
weakness...eventually leading to a north-northwestward motion in
3-5 days. The new official track is very close to the previous one
and to the model consensus...but there are reliable models on both
sides of that track. The GFDL and HWRF tracks head up the western
portion of the Florida Peninsula in a few days...while the GFS and
UKMET are farther west over the eastern Gulf of Mexico. In the
shorter term...the models also do not agree on whether the center
of Fay will pass over or just south of southeastern Cuba before
turning northwestward. These differing solutions again highlight
the pitfalls of focusing too much on the exact official forecast
track...especially at the longer ranges.

Intensity forecasting is always difficult...but in this case is made
even more complicated by the likely interactions with land during
the next few days. Atmospheric and ocean conditions along the
forecast track appear rather conducive for strengthening...so the
more time Fay spends over water...the stronger it is likely to
become...and vice versa. Dynamical model fields indicate that the
weak-shear environment around Fay should persist throughout most of
the five-day forecast period...with perhaps a modest but temporary
increase in shear in roughly 48 hours. When Fay is over
water...those waters will be very warm. Since the official track
implies ample amount of time over water...steady strengthening is
forecast...in a manner similar to the GFDL model. Fay could be
weaker than forecast if its stay over Hispaniola has substantially
disrupted the circulation...or if it moves farther north and east
and spends more time over Cuba. A track farther south and
west...however...could allow Fay to get stronger than what is
shown below.

Forecast positions and Max winds

initial 16/0900z 18.7n 72.0w 40 kt
12hr VT 16/1800z 19.0n 74.0w 40 kt
24hr VT 17/0600z 19.6n 76.4w 50 kt
36hr VT 17/1800z 20.5n 78.3w 55 kt
48hr VT 18/0600z 21.8n 79.9w 65 kt...near S coast of Cuba
72hr VT 19/0600z 25.0n 82.0w 70 kt
96hr VT 20/0600z 28.5n 83.5w 80 kt
120hr VT 21/0600z 32.0n 84.5w 35 kt...inland

$$
forecaster Knabb


85 posted on 08/16/2008 3:42:12 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse
Nice layout.

Thanks

86 posted on 08/16/2008 4:20:07 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Joe Brower

Ping bump


87 posted on 08/16/2008 4:22:31 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Old Professer

Latest reports from Puerto Viagra indicate a stiffening
of the storm and a definate curve thrusting to the north.

More reports as they come in....


88 posted on 08/16/2008 4:32:13 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NautiNurse

This is looking like a direct hit on my kids in Key West. They are out of town guess they will have to come home early.


89 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: NautiNurse
Ominous for us,any predictions on the forward speed for Tuesday? That may be everything on this one!
If it doesn't sit on us we will drain in a day or two and be back to work by mid week.
Unless we get the flooding rains like in the last one they got. They lost 13,000 cars in Key West alone in a storm a couple of years ago.
90 posted on 08/16/2008 5:30:53 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: NautiNurse

My buddy has the contract for PR in the Keys. They also make him kick everyone out. Tough job but no on better than him.


91 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:12 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: rodguy911
We'll know more as the day progresses. I just replenished a few items for the hurricane kit this morning (e.g. the coffin cooler was showing its age with cracks & leaks). Today will be yard inspection for loose debris. Tomorrow will give us a better idea whether we will need to hunker down or pack for bug out.

We've been so fortunate for so many years here in Tampa Bay. Soon enough we'll know whether our good luck holds up or runs out with Fickle Fay.

92 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:51 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse
Stay ready as I know you will.
Once again it's hard to thank you enough for all that you do here. You sure do help a lot of Freepers out at a critical time and I for one do appreciate you efforts!
93 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks for the updates, good luck.
Not to wish anyone bad weather, but we don’t need it here in Pensacola. The way they’re moving the track westward has me nervous, so much for tuna fishing this week.


94 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:39 AM PDT by orlop9
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To: orlop9
so much for tuna fishing this week.

Was listening to the local fishing talk radio show this morning. They were drooling about great fishing as a storm approaches.

Of course, I have always believed those pre-hurricane fishing stories are a ploy to avoid hurricane prep around the house. ;o)

95 posted on 08/16/2008 6:30:12 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: orlop9

Be sure and stop by Outcast before you go tuna fishing, say hi to Tommy and Anthony.


96 posted on 08/16/2008 6:33:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: rodguy911
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. We know this is the price paid for living in paradise. It's also a great opportunity to consume large quantities of chocolate and other munchies guilt-free.

;o)

97 posted on 08/16/2008 6:34:55 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse
Actually it really can happen although it is dangerous. As the barometer drops something the fish will go nuts but I don't recommend that on the shows I do, it's just to dangerous to go fishing in the teeth of an incoming storm.
98 posted on 08/16/2008 6:35:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: NautiNurse

Too Good NN, and me on a diet!


99 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:34 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: moder_ator

Could you please delete post #82. Thanks.


100 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:12 AM PDT by rdl6989
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