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Hello again, I’m Vista
The Economist ^ | August 7, 2008

Posted on 08/13/2008 12:35:25 AM PDT by Schnucki

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To: qam1
and they way it can't find §¶¦±, the Start Menu

There's a great video on Youtube about "Microsoft - The company that taught you to shut down a computer with the start button". Worth the three minutes.

61 posted on 08/13/2008 9:49:29 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: montag813
Some people use Parallels for PC programs on a Mac.

I use VMware Fusion to run an XP system under OS X.

It is seamless and very robust.

You can suspend the VM at any time.

VM will also let you checkpoint the XP system.

Or you can reboot the XP in the VM while continuing with OS X.

You can cut and paste across VMs.

Or share files, the network and printers.

If your machines are on a network,
you can with a utility
move the entire Windows machine into the VM.

You can if you want, move all 8 PCs into eight VMs on one Mac under OS X


62 posted on 08/13/2008 9:58:52 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: csmusaret
I never had this problem with the old computer. My ISP is time Warner Cable’s Roadrunner. I assumed this was a problem/feature with Vista. I was using XP before.

Hmm. Unfortunate. It does sound like it is the computer dropping the connection or incompatibility between Vista and the router/modem. Googling around a bit I see references to Vista and issues with IPV6 (probably on by default in Vista) and possible issues with older router/modems. Did you try calling Roadrunner and asking for help? Can they provide you with a later model router/modem with which Vista might play better?

63 posted on 08/13/2008 10:28:04 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: DB

It’s the tight integration between (limited variations of) hardware and software that makes Apple computers work better. Microsoft is hamstrung trying to make its stuff work on computers from Korea to Calcutta.


64 posted on 08/13/2008 10:48:22 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Schnucki

http://apcmag.com/xp_still_killing_vista_in_sales_volume_hp.htm

“Microsoft counts a sale for Windows Vista even though the computer manufacturer actually sold Windows XP. It’s kind of ironic when you realize how desperate Microsoft has become to gain public acceptance for the dying operating system[Vista}!!!.Dell and other computer manufacturers arereportedly also shipping computers ‘downgraded’ toWindows XP.”

http://www.infopackets.com/news/business/microsoft/2008/20080801_windows_xp_still_outselling_windows_vista.htm


65 posted on 08/13/2008 10:50:24 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida (McCain Swiftboated the Swift Boat Vets for Truth - Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: Eagles2003
Vista launches programs if you let the cursor sitting where it shouldn’t, it has a mind of it’s own. Double launches as well.

The keypad is not smooth, takes forever to move and “jumps” far worse than an LED mouse. Makes it difficult when it’s one step forward and two back. Way too sensitive, maybe I can adjust that.

While I generally despise MS software, it sounds like at least these problems you listed are hardware issues.

66 posted on 08/13/2008 11:01:18 AM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: Woodman

Thanks for the help. I turned off the tapping, it was far too sensitive and I did prefer using the left click button.

I looked for this earlier, already had the classic view setup but couldn’t find a touchpad option.


67 posted on 08/13/2008 11:19:27 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Eagles2003
I'm running Linux on several systems actually - but the one I mentioned is on a maybe 4-year-old desktop system with a 2-year-old (at the time) gaming quality graphics card.

I've got Compiz installed, which takes advantage of the the graphics card to add some nice eye candy, and am now upgrading the desktop to KDS 4.1 - which adds yet more.

So, in the next few days I'll have a good side-by-side comparison.

But, even without all the glitz I've got to say that I'm sold on Linux. For me the big thing is that when I click the little icon in the system tray that says software udpates are available, it updates *all* the software on the system for which updates exist. (And it's all free!)

68 posted on 08/13/2008 4:21:42 PM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: XeniaSt

What is the relationship between Linux, Windows, and .net? Are there going to be any Microsoft-engineered difficulties running .net applications on Linux?


69 posted on 08/13/2008 6:08:51 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
I'm not an expert on Microsoft.

I have always looked at Microsoft with skepticism.

.Net was always calculated vaporware to me.


70 posted on 08/13/2008 6:38:56 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt
.Net was always calculated vaporware to me.

Most applications compiled with the 2005 editions of the Visual Studio tools will use (and thus require) the .net 2.0 runtime; the 2008 editions are optimized for the .net 3.0 runtime. How is that vaporware?

71 posted on 08/13/2008 6:44:22 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Eagles2003
Glad to help. I was just trying to point out that most of your frustration with VISTA was really hardware related. I recently bought a lower end Toshiba with a Celeron M processor and 2 GB RAM running VISTA Home premium. It's stable and reasonably fast which in all honesty was surprise to me. I already had two other VISTA machines of a much higher caliber without problems, but I was convinced I would have to return the Toshiba before I even opened the box. Instead I am now using it as my primary lugger and leaving the high end laptop home as desktop replacement.
72 posted on 08/13/2008 7:04:07 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: qam1
First of all, I am not an MS Vendor nor have I ever been one. If I had I would be retired by now.
Second, the folder layout is a personal preference, I could just as easily say you suck with as much validity.
Third, I never seem to have to type more than about 3 letters into the search box to find a program I want, but it is an interface I think sucks, so we both agree on an opinion here.
fourth, task manager is essentially unchanged from NT4.0, Win2K, XP, and VISTA, although each version has gotten some additional functionality.
Last, I have not had the slowness problem, but maybe I'm lucky or something 8)
73 posted on 08/13/2008 7:14:40 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Schnucki; Swordmaker; ShadowAce
I simply cannot believe that we're at comment #74 and nobody has posted this picture yet, on a thread called "Hello again I'm Vista"!!!

Okay, it's up to me, I'll do it....


74 posted on 08/13/2008 8:32:26 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Swordmaker
a focus group in San Francisco of 140 volunteers who had not actually tried Vista but professed that they had heard awful things about it. They were then treated to ten-minute demos by a trained expert of a "new" operating system, allegedly called Mojave. They liked what they saw, and when told that this product was in fact Vista, they gasped in shock and delight.
"Do you think one of these piles of fresh linens looks whiter?" "Yes, I do." "Which one do you think looks whiter?" "Uh, the blue pile?" -- George Carlin
75 posted on 08/13/2008 10:38:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

76 posted on 08/14/2008 5:14:33 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: XeniaSt
If you used a Mac for 20 years, you never used OS X.

And how do you infer that? You're so smart you must be a defective! Did it occur to you that he might have spent 14 years on other Mac Os's and 6 on OSX, or something like that?

77 posted on 08/14/2008 8:20:12 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking
Because he said he was far more productive on a PC.

Prior to OS X, MacOS and windows each had their strong and weak points.

With the advent of OS X, with it's BSD Unix core,
it outstripped M$ in productivity.

Following the Mac move to Intel chips and the ability to run M$
in a Virtual Machine, the Mac advantage in productivity is complete.

Windows runs better in a VM on a Mac than on a IBM clone.


78 posted on 08/14/2008 8:34:29 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt

Alright, I understand now what you’re trying to say. I still think the previous post was poorly worded, but thanks for the clarification. I’ve actually been thinking about switching to Mac and running Windows when needed in virtualization. I do a lot of it now anyway.


79 posted on 08/14/2008 8:41:13 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Schnucki

Yep, that’s the way to do it. When you’ve got a second rate product don’t make it better .... spend more on advertising. Its the American way.


80 posted on 08/14/2008 7:20:30 PM PDT by gost2
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