[wideawake]

Please. If thats the case, why is the north so solidly blue? Because enormous numbers of liberal Southerners went north at the same exact time that all those northerners came south? Pathetic.

You didn't read my post, obviously. A good portion of Northerners became Westerners in the 1870s and 1880s. Their places back home were in large part taken by a massive wave of immigrants from Europe - a Europe well inured to social programs following the revolutions of 1848.

Rhode Island wasn't 30% Italian and Portuguese in 1860.

Who still had a deep resentment of anything Republican because of disHonest Abe, The War of Northern Aggression and Reconstruction.

I see. So the 80% vote for FDR - who was the textbook definition of a Northeastern Yankee patrician - was just a highly ironic postmodern protest vote against Yankees.

[cowboyway]

You didn't read my post, obviously.

Read your own post, dufus. I answered it in the order that you wrote it. You started out saying that yankees fled the northeast for the South in the 1960's and later in the post wrote some gibberish about yankee flight to the west.

It's up to YOU to keep your rantings in sequential order, not me.

I see. So the 80% vote for FDR - who was the textbook definition of a Northeastern Yankee patrician - was just a highly ironic postmodern protest vote against Yankees.

So, according to you, the South gets the blame for FDR?

[Citizen Blade]

You didn't read my post, obviously. A good portion of Northerners became Westerners in the 1870s and 1880s. Their places back home were in large part taken by a massive wave of immigrants from Europe - a Europe well inured to social programs following the revolutions of 1848.

The process was akin to ethnic cleansing. The movie The Gangs of New York hinted at what was going on in the Northeast. The draft rioters in NYC weren't generally Yankees- they were Irish, Italian and other immigrants from Europe and they voted Democrat. New England Yankees, along with the Midwesterners in the Old Northwest who had come from New England, were the strongest supporters of the Union.

Democrats in this country have a long history of sedition and revolt, especially in wartime.

But those rioters got what they had coming to them, that's for sure.