Posted on 08/05/2008 12:11:25 PM PDT by cowboyway
TAMPA, FLA. - Chip Witte doesn't consider himself a Rebel. He doesn't hang Dixie battle flags in his living room, nor does he wear one on the back of his leather jacket.
Yet when the Tampa motorcycle mechanic saw the world's largest Confederate battle flag unfurl above the intersection of I-75 and I-4 in June, he felt a jolt of solidarity with the lost cause and lost rights that he says the battle flag represents. "I think it's great that they're allowed to fly it," says Mr. Witte. [Editor's note: The original version misidentified the highway intersection.]
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The flag doesn’t OFFEND me!! I grew up in the north (in Connecticut) and I moved about 13 miles from where the flag is FLYING (on private PROPERTY). If I was alive in the 1860s, I would have supported the STATE RIGHTS of the CSA. Sorry, they knew Washington DC was becoming power hungry, and they wanted to fight it. The CSA was right — and I know that we want STATE RIGHTS — not FEDERAL RIGHTS!!
Actually it isn't the truth at all. The Confederacy was definitely fighting to preserve and expand slavery. As the Confederacy's vice president publicly stated to universal Southern acclaim, the Confederacy was founded upon the principle of the subjugation of the black race.
The Southern states wanted the CONSITUTION as it was.
No they didn't. One of the most damning proofs of that is written into the Confederate Constitution. Under the US Constitution each state had the authority to decide for itself whether or not slavery would be legal. The Confederate Constitution strips the states of this power and imposes a federal guarantee of slavery in every Confederate state and territory.
This shows that not only was the Confederacy not about "states rights" - by eliminating one of the state powers under the US Constitution, but that the Confederacy was indeed about slavery, since it eliminated this state prerogative in favor of slavery.
They could see what was happening to the FEDERAL Government in DC. They didn't like what it was becoming.
What federal laws or policies had been enacted that the leaders of the Confederacy didn't like? Do you know?
Southern Fairy Tales??? WTF?
You must be a LIBERAL - I guess you are from the NORTH!!
No it was THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION!! THE CSA wanted to peacefully succeed. The North started it!
This is completely fictional.
The South was clamoring for an increase in federal power in 1860 - namely the power of federal marshals to forcibly extract escaped slaves from northern states.
This policy, demanded by the South, was far and away the most intrusive extension of federal power into the governance of the states in American history up to that point.
The South's complaint was that the federal government wasn't doing enough, not that it was doing too much.
So the attack on Fort Sumter was an act of Northern aggression? Really now?
And the invasion of Columbus, Kentucky by the Confederate army was an act of Northern aggression too, I suppose?
THE CSA wanted to peacefully succeed. The North started it!
The Confederacy had no desire for peace.
The entire reason for secession was the conflict over whether slavery could expand into federal territory or not.
Before the Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter, Confederate soldiers were already marching through Texas to seize the federal territory of New Mexico.
I guess we will disagree on this. However, the FLAG is flying on PRIVATE PROPERTY and it should keep flying. If people don’t like it, sorry. The SCV owns the land it is flying from. I have the Welsh flag flying in front of my home along with the USA flag. Should I take down the WELSH flag? I could be offending my English (who moved from London) neighbor!!
My very first comment on this thread was that the owners had every right to fly the flag.
Again, the revisionist history that Confederate enthusiasts indulge in is not only factually incorrect, it is morally questionable and completely unproductive.
So anyone who doesn't swallow the Southron BS is a liberal? Typical, typical, typical.
THE WAR OF THE REBELLION, actually. If you want to shout it and all.
THE CSA wanted to peacefully succeed.
Then don't shoot up forts on your way out. It kind of blows that 'peacefully' part right out of the water. So to speak.
The North started it!
No, the confederacy did.
Your the one to talk about being Typical there N-S you’ve been playing the all confedreates are democrats card as of late.
I belive I once pointed out that the confederate cause in 1860 WAS a Democrat cause. All it's leaders and all it's supporters then were Democrats. Whatsamatta, you ashamed of your heritage or something?
I belive I pointed out to you that once the soutern states left the union and formed the there own country they where no longer democrats btw let’s talk about your heritage?
Its not public, it’s private.
Either way, I support it being flown. The confederates stood for SO MUCH more than a simple right to slavery. (as the liberals like to push)
What is the preferred term for an individual who argues in favor of the Confederate cause?
swattie, is that you?!
Ok it’s private land, I understand.
I’ll leave it at that.
That factoid was lost on George B. McClellan when he ran against Lincoln as a Democrat.
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