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What does the term "Nanny State" mean to you? What would it mean to Ronald Reagan?
Me | 08/04/08 | GOP_Lady

Posted on 08/04/2008 8:01:13 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

For your input. Thanks.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: itsforyourowngood; nanny; nannystate; policestate; reagan; ronaldreagan
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1 posted on 08/04/2008 8:01:13 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Gabz

Ping!


2 posted on 08/04/2008 8:03:02 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
Possibly the idea of cradle to grave governing by the government?
3 posted on 08/04/2008 8:04:36 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: GOP_Lady; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ..

Nanny State PING..............

This could be a good one folks, let’s rock and roll!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 08/04/2008 8:06:45 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz

Indeed, it needs to be discussed.


5 posted on 08/04/2008 8:08:42 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size.
Government programs, once launched, never disappear.
Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth.
--Ronald Reagan

6 posted on 08/04/2008 8:09:34 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Gabz

Nanny State, to me, means targeting those who want to change my diapers and will get poo in their hair while doing it.


7 posted on 08/04/2008 8:10:42 PM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: GOP_Lady

“Nanny State” = “The Future”.

Embrace the suck.


8 posted on 08/04/2008 8:11:35 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge

Oh, that sucks.


9 posted on 08/04/2008 8:13:03 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

The site doesn’t have enough bandwidth to answer the question. So I will simply say, “ We are too dumb to take care of ourselves”. Thank goodness we have help.

If you’ve ever seen Cool Hand Luke and remember the song “Plastic Jesus”, my rewrite may at least tickle your funny bone.

Obama

I’m ain’t scared of no Osama,
Long as I’ve got my own Obama,
Riding on the dashboard of my car.

He says he will save this nation,
All through proper tire inflation.
Add tune ups and I know he’ll take us far.

You sure need your own Obama,
Listen to his commie drama,
As he taxes all you make or save.

We don’t need domestic drilling,
All you need is to be willing,
Give up liberty and be his slave.

Go and get your own Obama,
He’s wiser than the Dalai Lama,
Leading us, to new hope and change.

If you don’t see his Marxist leaning,
Then your diaper must need cleaning.
As for me I’ll vote for John McCain.


10 posted on 08/04/2008 8:18:46 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: GOP_Lady

AUNT POLLY: Hang the boy, can’t I never learn anything? Ain’t he played me tricks enough like that for me to be looking out for him by this time? But old fools is the biggest fools there is. Can’t learn an old dog new tricks, as the saying is. But my goodness, he never plays them alike, two days, and how is a body to know what’s coming? He ‘pears to know just how long he can torment me before I get my dander up, and he knows if he can make out to put me off for a minute or make me laugh, it’s all down again and I can’t hit him a lick. I ain’t doing my duty by that boy, and that’s the Lord’s truth, goodness knows. Spare the rod and spile the child, as the Good Book says. I’m a laying up sin and suffering for us both, I know. He’s full of the Old Scratch, but laws-a-me! he’s my own dead sister’s boy, poor thing, and I ain’t got the heart to lash him, somehow. Every time I let him off, my conscience does hurt me so, and every time I hit him my old heart most breaks. Well-a-well, man that is born of woman is of few days and full of trouble, as the Scripture says, and I reckon it’s so. He’ll play hookey this evening, and I’ll just be obleeged to make him work, to-morrow, to punish him. It’s mighty hard to make him work Saturdays, when all the boys is having holiday, but he hates work more than he hates anything else, and I’ve GOT to do some of my duty by him, or I’ll be the ruination of the child.

Toms’ Aunt.

The Start.


11 posted on 08/04/2008 8:19:00 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: GOP_Lady

12 posted on 08/04/2008 8:20:48 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom Cracker power Brother)
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To: Old Sarge

Heal the world,
Make this a better place

he-he

I hear Michael Jackson.

Progressives and Marxist ideas sound great in theory.


13 posted on 08/04/2008 8:25:18 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: al baby

A black face, big floppy ears and partially white? What are you implying? O baaaaa maaaa


14 posted on 08/04/2008 8:25:37 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Nice to see you again, Sir Eric. Hope all is well with you and yours. :-)


15 posted on 08/04/2008 8:26:58 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

While Socialism is A form of a “nanny state” and is likely to totalitarian in nature, nannystatism where the State prohibits personal activity (which in EARLIER generations was legal) because it is “bad” for you (personally bad, not potentially bad for those in your proximity) ALWAYS is totalitarian in nature.

Whether it was ACT (action for children’s television) determining which actions in cartoons and 3 Stooges shorts were “dangerous” or Dr. Frederic Wertham (who’s censorship effort of comic books was given national Congressional spotlight by Sen. Estes Kefauver D-Tenn) or Al and Tipper Gore (D-Tenn) making a play for the national stage on the “issue” of naughty rock lyrics (country and jazz references to sex and drugs were not the topic of the investigation). Al Gore didn’t secure his party’s nomination in 1988 but he was there in 1992-2000. His daddy taught him well having lost out on his OWN White House bid to fellow Tennessee Senator Kefauver.

Then there are the nannystaters who want to dictate what type of car you may drive (Ralph Nader proclaimed the Corvair to be unsafe at any speed but I thought that more accurately described the Pinto). Some want to prohibit the “deadly” SUVs which seem to go on possessed rampages killing people and drinking up all of that valuable oil that we spill so much blood over.

Then there are the nanystaters who got cigarette ads off of tv, who protest actors smoking in movies, but see no connection between immoral sexual activity between unmarried partners in tv and movie programs. They raise the taxes on cigarettes, they fine those who buy their cigarettes in bulk from the Indians, they prohibit smoking in public, in bars, on patios, in cars, and even in privately rented apartments.

Then there are the pro-abortion anti-meat vegans who preach an unhealthy diet because it imposes Man’s will on poor animals. Some vegans also feed their pets vegan diets. The food circle was replaced with an unhealthy carb heavy food pyramid. School lunch and prison programs are urged to offer vegan options. Fast food restaurants are prohibited by law from opening up in some poorer neighborhoods...

The woman who founded MADD left the group in 1985 because she saw their continued efforts as a neo-prohibition movement on alcohol. In the 1990s she lobbied on BEHALF of bars and breweries to keep the BAC limit from being lowered even further. In Utah there was a proposal to require ALL cars to have a breath ignition system installed regardless of any prior DWI charges or convictions.

We know what the gun grabbers’ goal is, an end to the antiquated notion of a right to keep and bear arms.

THIS? is America???


16 posted on 08/04/2008 8:26:58 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: GOP_Lady

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path".

--Ronald Reagan

Inside Ronald Reagan: A Reason Interview from July 1975

17 posted on 08/04/2008 8:28:51 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: MtnClimber
Nanny State, to me, means targeting those who want to change my diapers and will get poo in their hair while doing it.

That's got to be the BEST definition I've ever read!!!! And I state that as a Mom who decided, in part, to cut her long hair for that reason :)

18 posted on 08/04/2008 8:35:26 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: politicalwit

08Don’t blame me I’m voting Whitey in 08


19 posted on 08/04/2008 8:41:19 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom Cracker power Brother)
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To: 1rudeboy
I'd also like to mention a record where Ronald Reagan put himself out there to the public in 1961 to speak out against the incrementalism of Socialism and a socialized medicine program...

This youtube clip is supposed to be the whole thing (I've heard the record but have not compared it to the clip). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

One of the things Reagan is addressing is that socialism will come through incrementalism.

20 posted on 08/04/2008 8:48:15 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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