[TigersEye]

That is a little better. I find this all very interesting too. The climate will do what it wants and all six billion of us can't do a thing about it. Except adapt and deal with what we get.

What I have always found scary, on a philosophical level, is that the glacial maximum periods last so long. I can easily see how 60k or more years of glacial maximum could trash mankind's technological and cultural progress and put us back into hunter-gatherer mode.

[colorado tanker]

I don't see how civilization as we know it survives a glacial max. New York and London would be under the ice or at the boundary. Chicago, Milwaukee and Minneapolis go under. Most of Europe is under or is a tundra. The great prairies of the U.S. and Canada out of production. It's a scary thought.

And to think there are idiots doing everything they can to trigger an ice age. Of course, I agree with you they can't do it.