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Montauk Monster: Property of the USDA?
Associated content.com ^ | July 30th, 2008 | By Carol Bengle Gilbert,

Posted on 07/30/2008 10:44:38 AM PDT by Perdogg

An unknown creature that washed up on the beach in Montauk, New York, has been dubbed the "Montauk Monster" and captivated the American imagination.

Speculation about the identity of the Montauk Monster is rampant. Many skeptical Americans believe that the Montauk Monster a publicity stunt. The most conspiracy-minded are sure the Montauk monster is detritus from a sinister government operation. The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)-operated Plum Island animal testing facility is nearby, fueling the belief that the USDA is responsible; some would see the Montauk Monster as a hideous USDA experiment gone wrong while others might consider it a not -so-unexpected byproduct of animal experimentation. The simplest explanation might be that the Montauk Monster is a natural mutation of some sort of ordinary Earth animal, but which one?

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; cryptobiology; montauk; montaukmonster; tortoise; turtle
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To: Quix
Actually, I find nothing in the pics at the link provided remotely resembling the pic of the critter in the sand.

yeah well that doesn't surprise me. You miss a lot of stuff on other less visible/tangible subjects too.

If you could provide me with evidence of your artistic visual ability I might take such an assessment more seriously.

61 posted on 08/01/2008 7:51:15 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Quix

Oh and your experience with gutting dead animals as well.


62 posted on 08/01/2008 7:52:43 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Perdogg

Is anyone going to do a DNA test?


63 posted on 08/01/2008 7:55:00 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Perdogg

A cat or a dog (no reference to size or weight that I could find) that the sand/surf action has abraded the hair off of.

Alternately, it could have been a similar sized forest creature which had the hair singed off in a forest or grass fire and fled to the water and subsequently drowned, I’ve seen skeletal remains of quite a few of those.


64 posted on 08/01/2008 8:03:41 AM PDT by Axenolith (7-17-08 : Gasoline is an average $0.32/gallon in US 90% silver coinage...)
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To: Terriergal
Still gifted with an abundance of UNsweetness in assaultive personal attacks, I see.

SoooooOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOoooooooo IMPRESSIVE!

BTW, by the time I was in my teens and Dad might have given me some of the gutting tasks, we'd stopped raising our own food. So my experiences in that department are merely in watching countless examples. But the day I had to eat the brains, I'd wished I hadn't watched.

I assume the daily chore of gutting the snakes and scorpions is down to a quick art, now?

65 posted on 08/01/2008 8:18:14 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

No, not personal attacks, just stuff based on your other arguments and a request for proof of your visual art ability. Those with no ability in comparing two objects for similarities (such as an artist does in his head every time he draws something) will not be able to make a judgement very accurately. They’re welcome to try. But I run into a lot of people labeling stray dogs one breed or another when they don’t even resemble the breed. I guess you’d have to have the eye for that sort of thing.

A raccoon (now that Jeff Corwin has mentioned it) seems an even more viable explanation given the hand-like shape of the front paws. Dunno why that one slipped my mind.

A raccoon skull is of a similar shape to a dog - with the eyes further forward.

raccoon skull:
http://www.science-art.com/gallery/128/128_1230200513818.jpg

As my hubby cyrano mentioned, a dog skull doesn’t even look like a dog. Which is my point exactly. The deer skull hanging on my wall here looks distinctly beak like especially because ungulates lack any front upper teeth.

However, again, a raccoon seems the most plausible right now.


66 posted on 08/01/2008 4:42:40 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Quix

And no, I’m not as fast as others at field dressing deer, because I tend to be overly cautious about injuring bladder, stomach, and intestines. I like my meat to be as untainted by those things as possible.

Why, is there something wrong or uncivilized about killing and eating your own food?

It sure sounds like it from your previous post.


67 posted on 08/01/2008 4:45:09 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Axenolith

Cyrano told me today Jeff Corwin said it is probably a raccoon.

THe hair will begin to fall out not too long after death especially when kept wet. When you skin an animal for its fur you must treat the pelt ASAP so that the hair does not ‘drop.’ There was a girl from my hometown who disappeared for a couple weeks after I married and moved away. They found her in her car in the river. All her hair was already gone. I can’t remember how long it was that she was missing though.

http://www.essortment.com/all/smallhideshow_rioi.htm
“ When tanning pelts, you must be careful to not let the pelt stay wet for too long or the fur will fall off. “


68 posted on 08/01/2008 5:05:58 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Perdogg
One thing is for sure, its not amphibius.......
69 posted on 08/01/2008 5:09:30 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Terriergal

My guess is that its an opossum......


70 posted on 08/01/2008 5:17:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

depending on size that is possible. Looks a bit husky in build for that to me.


71 posted on 08/01/2008 5:29:23 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
depending on size that is possible. Looks a bit husky in build for that to me.

Size is everything and one would think that whoever reported the story would have at least stated its approximate size.........

72 posted on 08/01/2008 5:50:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: swatbuznik
Weird. They don’t give any size to the animal.

I believe they said it was about two football field in length.

Not sure if they meant football or soccer.

73 posted on 08/01/2008 5:55:07 PM PDT by Eaker (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. (H.)
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To: Perdogg
Larval stage Narn or Drazi.
74 posted on 08/01/2008 6:38:04 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Whatever that raving thug false prophet in Florida is called, I want to be called something else.)
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To: Terriergal

No.

I’m certainly not against killing for food.

Just not my preference to do it myself. Not something I enjoy.

I have done it plenty to know how—beginning to end.


75 posted on 08/01/2008 8:42:36 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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