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To: Soliton

“We know absolutely...”????

Please help me with this one. I thought there were no absolutes? Also, I thought every thing was expressed scientifically as a theory? (Or, a hypothesis.)

After all, the purpose of evolution, and the accompanying eons upon eons of time theory, is to obscure religion with the pat response that given enough time everything we think happened happened. Ok, sorry, that was a cheap shot.

Look, there is no science that can prove absolutely that the stars preexisted the earth or that they preexisted 10,000 BC. Unless you can produce witnesses who saw the stars created before the earth you have only theory and hypotheses, not scientific proof.

You may be right about what you believe, though I doubt the ancient universe theories myself, but you need to understand that it is a belief, not a fact. It can never be fact. Your belief may be a fact, but the object of your belief is not and can never be, a provable, repeatable fact or condition. It is forever out of your grasp, I am sorry to say. No one has ever created a star, and science is not even decided on how stars were formed except in the very highest level of explanation which is tantamount to “somehow stuff came together and became a star.” When they use their “jargonator” powers, though, it sounds very certain and oh so very sophisticated, but it is not much more definitive than my playful vulgarization.


99 posted on 07/29/2008 4:59:04 AM PDT by sleepy_hollow
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To: sleepy_hollow
I thought there were no absolutes?

It is physically impossible for the elements on earth to have formed here. Hydrogen and Helium were formed in the Big Bang. Heavier elements were formed in stars. The heaviest elements were formed in super novae. Now you can say that there are no absolutes (and yet you accept them in your rreligion)but there is no doubt in any scientist's mind that stars existed before earth did. None.

http://aether.lbl.gov/www/tour/elements/stellar/stellar_a.html

104 posted on 07/29/2008 6:54:41 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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