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To: smug
I think had the war ended after say Gettysburg, with the south gaining it's independence the U.S. and C.S.A. would shortly have become sister countries with each having the others back.

Oh come on. You all lost the war and 143 years later you're still pissed. Why do you think the North would have been any more adult about losing? A separation as a result of the war would have left two hostile countried staring at each other. And most likely would have led to future wars.

The south would have been forced to deal with an end to slavery, cause that genie was out of the box never to return.

With all due respect I think that's nonsense. Having fought a costly war to create a country where slave ownership was protected, I don't see the South rushing to get rid of it. What would they have replaced it with?

The U.S. without the south's stabilizing influence to offset the communist tendency's of the Northeast goes beyond my poor ability's to imagine.

So you see a drift towards socialism in the North, and I think the South's rush towards totalitarian fascism would have been rapid and irreversable. Not a pretty picture in either case.

148 posted on 08/03/2008 9:46:49 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
You all lost the war and 143 years later you're still pissed. Why do you think the North would have been any more adult about losing?

More adult, hardly. But the North would have lost nothing but size and pride. The South lost their country and their independence.

where slave ownership was protected, I don't see the South rushing to get rid of it.

The number of slaves at that time "off the reservation" so to speak, was substantial in many area's of the south. Humpty was too broken to put back together except by using those men that were in the CS army, and I doubt very seriously they could have been forced to fight to get back another man's property when they didn't believe they were fighting for that against the Lincolnite's. They would have simply replaced slavery then the same way they did 143 years ago.

I think the South's rush towards totalitarian fascism would have been rapid and irreversible.

Hardly, a study of the inner struggle of the Confederate states is one of resistance to federal authority. As Shelby Foote wrote they had no Supreme Court cause they did not need one as State's Rights still took precedence, hence Davis proclamation that if the Confederacy should fail, inscribe on her tombstone; "Died of a Theory".
150 posted on 08/03/2008 10:43:07 PM PDT by smug (smug for President; Your only real hope)
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