Forced Off Duke’s Varsity Golf Team, Giuliani’s Son Files a Lawsuit

The New York Times ^ | July 25, 2008 | ALISON LEIGH COWAN

[Amelia]

He sounds obnoxious, self-centered, and also his golf scores weren't helping the team...

[pnh102]

Sadly I can see him winning this. The courts have decided in recent years that they are now the ultimate arbiter of rules of a game.

[DallasBiff]

He does sound obnoxious.

Maybe instead of suing, he should stop whinig and maybe face the fact that professional golf is not a career for him.

I wonder who is paying his legal fees, his mother or father. He sounds like a mama's boy.

[AndyJackson]

Dear Andrew,

Give it up, grow up, take it on the chin like a man and learn from the lesson. If you were my son I would cut your allowance and tell him to get a job. There are some lessons you did not learn from growing up famous if not rich.

And I have a clue for you Andrew. It isn't the team that is keeping you from making it big time in the pros. Either it's belief that your can win with your attitude while everyone else is working his but off in training. It could also be that you are a no talent bum.

[Always Right]

I can see over-looking one of those incidents, but the coach actually showed quite a bit of restraint in waiting for the fourth incident to put an end to it. Someone needs to mature. Besides, he had a long long ways to go before even thinking about becoming a professional.

[ken21]

rich kids always expect results,

whether they have the talent or motivation or do the work

or not.

[Amelia]

A lot of court decisions don’t make sense to me any more.

I have to think that anyone on this sort of scholarship has a written agreement...and I can’t think the written agreement would say they have to put up with him no matter how he behaves, but I could be wrong.

[DemonDeac]

Sounds like a spoiled brat.

[Amelia]

If you read the whole article, I’ll guess Mommy since she was there with him during the interview, and apparently controlled at least some of what he was saying - cut him off at one point.

[chopperman]

.....He sounds like a mama's boy.

As I recall, the kids practically disowned their father when they divorced. She's the one that spoiled him.

[panthermom]

If you have the respect of your teammates I don’t see how it would be so hard to get them to write a letter of endorsement for you. The fact that 6 said they wanted him off the team and his behavior that he is admitting to is probably only the tip of the iceberg.

He’s probably not that good and obviously has a extremely bad attitude which effects the entire team.

[Amelia]

If he's at the bottom half of the team as a senior, he's not going to the PGA anytime soon, I'd think.

Plus, his behavior is anything but professional.

[silverleaf]

Probably legal fees for suits filed by minors are considered part of child support these days. Bend over Rudy.

Andrew sounds like his mother’s son.

[krb]

"My actions are unimportant. Let me back on the team!"

[Amelia]

He’s 22; hardly a minor.

[sharkhawk]

Isn’t Andrew the kid who acted up at Rudy’s first mayoral inagruation? Chris Farley did a spoof on SNL that was pretty funny. Sounds and looks like Rudy never disciplined this spoiled brat.

[commonguymd]

Quite a little jerk it sounds like.

[geezerwheezer]

The real question here is......Who gives a damn?

[deport]

Curious what his major is as the article didn’t state.

He and his actions along with team rankings got in the middle of a team reduction process it seems. Someone that only played 6 competitive tournament rounds last year isn’t a major player for the team. I don’t remember the number of players a school uses in a tournament but six or so I think. Thus on a 14 man squad with him in the lower half he’s got to have other things to help retain him on the roster. Sounds like the new coach is planning for the future by eliminating a senior with low team rankings..

[silverleaf]

A 22 year old just finishing Junior year? I didn't realize golf was such a demanding major. I would bet the divorce settlement requires Rudy to spring for his offspring through their years of education regardless of age - supposedly Rudy gave Donna what he had to to end their hellish marriage, although what really got her to agree to divorce was that she had decided to hook up with Oster. Sounds like Andy was not a popular boy. 1/3 of his own team voted him off the island.


He said he was summarily told in February that he was no longer eligible to play and was given no chance to defend himself. His one chance to keep his spot, he said he was told, would be if he persuaded every teammate to write that they wanted him on the team, and why......

An e-mail message to Andrew Giuliani from five of the players, dated April 9, explained that they preferred that he leave the team. “The coaches have had no part in this,” they wrote.