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“Let us begin than for example with those who accept the evolution theory. If you are convinced we evolved than you accept these unexplainable or beyond our comprehension facts. One being as the Einstein E=MC2 proves you must have energy to make matter. Or simply put life is derived from life. No one can dispute this and no one sane and/or intelligent ever has. So for evolution to be fact then you must accept as fact that all of the elements needed to merge together through pure chance had to already exist previous too the forced union of all those components colliding to start the universe.

You also have to accept or be asked to explain the mathematical impossibility of this happening. It would be more likely that all of the parts that make a Cadillac Escalade, a Rolex watch, and an Apple computer strewn over a large parking lot would somehow then suddenly come together in precise order and become the three objects mentioned. Consider also the overlying element of how things miraculously developed life and the ability to procreate.”


2 posted on 07/24/2008 8:50:50 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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On the other hand you have to be willing to believe that the earth is several thousand years old, and that most of what geology and geography and paleontology and astronomy and meteorology and many other sciences teaches is incorrect.


4 posted on 07/24/2008 8:54:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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One being as the Einstein E=MC2 proves you must have energy to make matter. Or simply put life is derived from life.

The 'simply put' is an illogical leap that has no basis in the prior sentence.

You also have to accept or be asked to explain the mathematical impossibility of this happening. It would be more likely that all of the parts that make a Cadillac Escalade, a Rolex watch, and an Apple computer strewn over a large parking lot would somehow then suddenly come together in precise order and become the three objects mentioned.

Another bad argument. This is the putting the cart before the horse mistake. A mathematical improbability is not the same as a mathematical impossibility. One could argue that we are not 'designed' per say, but are the result of circumstances. Earth, for example, could be nothing more than the result of circumstances- matter combining, different elements, based on weight, collect in this gravitational range. Over billions of years, comets crash, bringing water, making a blue planet that looks unique, and is very different from every other planet, but is just the result of circumstances, not necessarily design.

Now, just for the record, I am not an atheist or agnostic, but I do believe in theistic evolution. What I don't like are all of these 'final proof' arguments that really just make the author look silly because the logic is so invalid.

9 posted on 07/24/2008 9:25:21 AM PDT by mnehring
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So for evolution to be fact then you must accept as fact that all of the elements needed to merge together through pure chance...

You got this far then stumbled big-time.

See if you can figure out the error you made.

15 posted on 07/25/2008 11:04:55 PM PDT by Rudder
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