John McCain's First Wife

[EggsAckley]

“Oh, I believe that Carol thinks well of John. Did she ever remarry, by the way? Or was she unable to find a man who’d love her despite her disability?”

Actually, I don’t see that that’s any of my business, or anyone else’s for that matter.

[LaurenD]

“As far as Carol divorcing him, who can blame her? People fall out of love all the time. She got used to living without him when he was in VietNam. She probably compared her life then vs. life with him. It happens.”

Except that this is not the heading that began this thread. The topic of this thread presented McCain as just doing what his first wife asked him to do as though her selflessness justified his selfishness and now I guess we’re supposed to reduce it all down to the various reasons that people get divorces in order to divert attention away from such a false notion that initiated the discussion.

[I still care]

My guess is the rich heiress is helping wife #1 out with her pocketbook.

[Mamzelle]

If these weren't public figures angling for our votes, and the thread submitted with the theme--"John's X thinks he's just swell and a disabled woman should release her prince of a husband so he can move on with his life--

[LaurenD]

“sometimes, i just can’t believe some things i read...even here on fr:”

Yeah.....as if something not being unheard of is the same as not being immoral. There a million examples of behaviors and acts that are not unheard of, yet are still immoral.

[calcowgirl]

Wow—your third post in 8 years!

Thanks so much for bringing us this breaking news!

[EggsAckley]

Whatever.

Not really in the mood for a big debate on this lovely Sunday.

Regards.

[Mamzelle]

re: My guess is the rich heiress is helping wife #1 out with her pocketbook)))

I would think she had to, at least at first since JM brought few assets to their marriage.

Wonder how much it costs to keep from being called "homewrecker" by the wronged wife?

[LaurenD]

“Since then, his career has largely been made up of legislation designed to sell out Republicans by allowing the Dems to put his name on anti-conservative legislation.”

He survived being a POW and fought for his country......I won’t take that away from him. Many people have fought for their country and many have survived extreme adversity. They’re do not all have the qualifications and moral integrity to be President.

Part of his pattern also includes abandoning his disabled wife and selling out his country to Mexico for votes. Sadly, the choice this time is between two dishonest men with McCain being only marginally better than Obama in my opinion. I hold the Republican party at-least partly to blame for this.

[Mamzelle]

re: The topic of this thread presented McCain as just doing what his first wife asked him to do as though her selflessness justified his selfishness )))

Neatly summarized. McCain supporters should stay away from the subject of the McCain divorce and remarriage, because this attempt to "spin" the story is lame, indeed, and more likely to alienate than win support.

I'd like to see a study or poll done to see how McCain rates among conservative women. My theory is that women will tend to dislike him. There's so little that's winning about him.

[CodeToad]

She sounds like a wonderful person. Maybe she should run for office.

[ThisLittleLightofMine]

Marriage vows include in sickness and in health, people do not take vows seriously these days.

[ozzymandus]

So, do you hate all men, or just John McCain?

[ozzymandus]

I saw an interview where McCain’s ex said something similar, even though the reporter was trying to get her to bash McCain. Of course, the McCain haters will never pass up a chance to make snotty remarks.

[Mamzelle]

Does John McCain hate all Americans, or just conservative ones?

[ozzymandus]

Oh, I’m sure John McCain hates all Americans. He’s a Viet Cong spy, you know. Sheesh.

[Mamzelle]

Sheesh, yourself--you just called me a manhater.

And I noticed you don't try to say that McVain has any respect for conservatives.

[LaurenD]

I love lots of men. My husband, my Dad, my deceased grandfathers and uncles who all fought in WWll. My two little men that are my sons. My love for my husband is not conditioned upon him staying healthy and able. It is conditioned upon him staying loyal to his family, loving, and not abusive...which he has done.

Because this is the standard I hold myself up to, I can look down my nose on McCain in good conscience on this issue.

[Caramelgal]

People fall out of love all the time.

How true. Not all couples who divorce do so out of hatred or because one spouse or the other or both behaved badly. Sometimes people just grow apart and certainly a long absence, a demanding career like serving in the military or being a politician combined with illness or other traumatic events can put a tremendous strain on a marriage.

I know this from personal experience. Over the course of nearly 20 years together and a lot of stresses, my ex and I grew apart. In the last years of our marriage we were not fighting per se but just didn’t have too much in common any more, few shared interests and had become very distant. We were no longer in love with each other and it was more like having a roommate than having a spouse and it was very painful for both of us. There is no loneliness like the loneliness of sharing your life with someone who you no longer feel any intimate closeness to. But it didn’t make either of us bad people.

While going through a divorce was difficult and there was some mutual anger, disappointment and resentment directed at each other during the process, in the end it was very amicable and we have remained friends and still stay in touch. We were unable to have any children together so maybe that made it easier, perhaps too easy to part, but my ex stays in touch with some of my nieces and has attended some family functions and I’m glad that our divorce didn’t have to mean we had to severe all ties with each other or with our extended families. When his niece lost her long battle with breast cancer, we traveled together for the funeral and I was glad to be there to support him and his sister in their time of grief.

Strangely, and I know a lot of people don’t and will not ever understand this; while I deeply regret that our marriage ended, in some ways the divorce made us better friends. If we had stayed together for the sake of staying together we would have ended up really hating each other and miserable. Like you said, “It happens”.

[marajade]

You can’t pass judgment on others until you’ve been there yourself.

What’s your story.