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To: wideawake
FIRST, there are NO "neo-Confederates", except in the fevered mind of morris dees, the "shyster in chief" of the so-called "southern poverty law center." dees has stated openly that he coined that label as an "intentional term of abuse", because he HATES the south & all conservative southerners. (one hopes that you are NOT a south-HATER.)

as for "a poor analogy", there are relatively FEW persons in the US military services, who have ACTUAL training/experience/detailed knowledge of guerrilla/counter-guerrilla operations. & even fewer who have been successful authors of official doctrine on that subject. (i happen to be one of those.)- therefore your comments are UNKNOWING & pardon me for saying so, SILLY & UNEDUCATED.

as for COL Bankhead, YES he was an artillery officer, but his detailed knowledge of his "home area" might well have made him (and many others like him) an excellent guerrilla leader (like Francis Marion of AmRev fame), had he been ordered to do so.===> may i further remind you that LTC Wendell Fertig, a "Reserve Major of Civil Engineers,who is of no particular talent or experience" (according to the J-2 of GEN MacArthur's staff) successfully LED the USFIP, against the Japanese during WW2??

thus your post remains nothing more than your personal opinion. (opinion absent knowledge/experience/training is use-LESS.) free dixie,sw

165 posted on 07/08/2008 8:51:27 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
FIRST, there are NO "neo-Confederates", except in the fevered mind of morris dees, the "shyster in chief" of the so-called "southern poverty law center." dees has stated openly that he coined that label as an "intentional term of abuse", because he HATES the south & all conservative southerners. (one hopes that you are NOT a south-HATER.)

I use the term "neo-Confederate" to describe people who think that the Confederacy was a great idea.

I don't hate the South at all. I visit the South several times a year and I can't say enough good things about the people and the places I've encountered there from El Paso to Fredericksburg.

even fewer who have been successful authors of official doctrine on that subject

Please name some of these texts that you authored. I have a relative who until very recently served in Afghanistan as a colonel working in counterinsurgency operations. He'll be able to tell me right away how successful those texts are.

as for COL Bankhead, YES he was an artillery officer, but his detailed knowledge of his "home area"

While it is certainly possible that Bankhead might by some chance have turned out to be some kind of hidden guerrilla warfare genius, I'm not sure why you would pick him out of the thousand or more regiment level Southern officers given his service record. That, in addition to the fact that he surrendered early and immediately began working with Unionists in postwar Memphis makes him a spectacularly unlikely candidate for leadership in a guerrilla movement.

Why would he have succeeded when Jubal Early and John Bell Hood failed? Nothing we know about the man would suggest that.

166 posted on 07/08/2008 9:16:04 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: stand watie; wideawake
dees has stated openly that he coined that label as an "intentional term of abuse", because he HATES the south & all conservative southerners. (one hopes that you are NOT a south-HATER.)

From Wikipedia:

"The term neo-Confederate was used in a scholarly fashion as far back as 1954. In a book review, Leonard Levy, winner of the Pulitzer Prize for History in 1968, wrote, "Similar blindness to the moral issue of slavery, plus a resentment against the rise of the Negro and modern industrialism, resulted in the neo-Confederate interpretation of Phillips, Ramsdell and Owsley.""

Wikipedia goes on to note that James McPherson used the term in 1999 while the SPLC first used the term in 2000.

You have absolutely no concept of what truth is, do you?

167 posted on 07/08/2008 9:27:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
t his detailed knowledge of his "home area" might well have made him (and many others like him) an excellent guerrilla leader (like Francis Marion of AmRev fame), had he been ordered to do so.

Except that Bankhead wasn't even around at the end of the war to get such orders, having already cut a deal to go home with a safe-conduct pass in return for giving information to the US forces, more than a month before Lee's surrender.

From The Abraham Lincoln Papers at the Library of Congress

From Edward R. S. Canby to Abraham Lincoln, March 1, 1865

Rec'd 4.15 P.M

Mar. 8th 1865

In Cipher—

New Orleans La

Mar. 1st 1865

via Cairo Mar. 8th

I have given a pass to enter our lines, and safe conduct and protection while within them, to Smith F. Bunkhead1 a Brigadier General in the rebel service, with the assurance that if the information he gives is of its promised value I will recommend his case to your favorable consideration. As similar overtures have been made to me before I think it proper to ask for some general instructions with regard to that class of persons excepted by your proclamation of Dec. 8th 1863. There is no difficulty in treating with persons who are entitled to the benefit of that amnesty, but I desire to be advised how far I may take preliminary steps in cases that require the action of the President

1 The business of Acting Brig. Gen. Smith P. Bankhead within Canby's lines is unknown. However, on March 20, the Secretary of War telegraphed Canby that his course with regard to the pass issued to Bankhead was approved by Lincoln. Canby was told that it was proper to issue such passes to persons whose business was deemed beneficial to the public interest. See Official Records, Series I, Volume 48, Part 1, 1216-17.

Ed R.S. Canby

Maj Gen Comdg.


168 posted on 07/08/2008 10:38:48 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: stand watie

In the same way that there are no “Neo-confederates” there cannot be “Damn Yankees”. You can’t have it both ways swattie.

If you allow for one, you get the other in the bargain.

Personally, I always figured you for a Lost Causer - even more hopeless (and repugnant) than a neo-confederate.

It all comes out in the wash though, doesn’t it swattie?

BTW: Everything on this site is personal opinion - yours included. It’s just that some opinions square up with the truth better than other opinions. And then there’s your opinion, which doesn’t seem to square up with anything ;’}

I paraphrase the Grand Old Man, “Well, the trouble with swattie is not that he is ignorant, but that he knows so much that isn’t so.”


169 posted on 07/08/2008 1:37:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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