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Vista's big problem: 92 percent of developers ignoring it
Cnet.com ^ | 6/16/08 | Matt Asay

Posted on 06/16/2008 8:35:11 PM PDT by twntaipan

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41 posted on 06/17/2008 5:06:19 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Doohickey
Backward compatibility is not “completely broken”. That’s hyperbole. I can come up with many examples of lousy software that runs just fine on Vista. If it’s not working, then it’s generally doing something it shouldn’t be.

You know, like calculating heating loads and CFM to pump into a room, all that stuff your computer shouldn't do anyway. Not buying new software because the old software is paid for is just wrong.

42 posted on 06/17/2008 6:06:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Go ask the software vendor why their lousy software doesn’t work and when it’ll be fixed. Since the OS has been out more than a year, I suspect that you’d rather bitch than demand accountability from the actual makers of your software.


43 posted on 06/17/2008 7:15:16 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: Doohickey
Go ask the software vendor why their lousy software doesn’t work and when it’ll be fixed.

You know, for years I've been hearing that because hardware manufacturers won't release drivers for Linux somehow this makes Linux "not ready," and somehow it becomes the fault of Linux.

So by that definition, since software vendors won't release updates to run on Vista, does this make Vista "not ready?" And is it Microsoft's fault?

44 posted on 06/17/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: chaos_5; wastedyears
You honestly think MS cares what you are doing online?

They probably don't care what I'm doing on the pot, either, but I'm not taking the door off the bathroom. Private means private.

45 posted on 06/17/2008 8:28:35 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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To: twntaipan

I found it irritating to have to relearn where everything is on the apps.


46 posted on 06/17/2008 8:40:04 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Liberty2007; Southack
xp came out 6 years ago so your software is at least 6 years old

So you're saying all XP software is known to have been written prior to XP's release?? Rather, I think we can more safely say his software is AT MOST 6 years old, and in fact could have been written as recently as 2006 and still been for the latest Windows at the time. Sounds like more of an argument why it should still work than an argument why he should upgrade.

47 posted on 06/17/2008 9:09:52 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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To: Knitebane

Depends. A lot of hardware vendors use the release of a new OS version to enforce planned obsolescence to get users to update hardware. If a component is, say, ten years old then no it doesn’t make business sense to maintain support for it. In other cases, is a bald-faced attempt to export money out of unsuspecting users.

In the case of hardware drivers and to a greater extent software, backward compatability is broken to close an attack vector. It happens with every OS, but it seems that some get a pass (OS9 to OSX, or Linux 2.x to 3.x), while others don’t.

Those of you who prefer Linux didn’t seem to care about backward compatibility when Windows wasn’t secure. But now that it is, for some reason it’s a priority. Curious, but not at all surprising.


48 posted on 06/17/2008 9:10:29 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: Doohickey
It happens with every OS, but it seems that some get a pass (OS9 to OSX, or Linux 2.x to 3.x), while others don’t.

Eh? What is this Linux 3.x thing? The most current Linux kernel is 2.6.

But besides that, I can easily boot Linux kernel 0.99 on just about any commodity hardware. Support can be had and new drivers can be written although you may have to pony up and hire someone to do it. Try that with Windows 3.11.

Those of you who prefer Linux didn’t seem to care about backward compatibility when Windows wasn’t secure.

Those of us who prefer Linux haven't had to care about backward compatibility. My code from 1999 works just as well today on a 2.6 kernel and new hardware as it did then. Code written for Linux on a Sun Sparcstation 5 will compile on an AMD64. Backward compatibility is always possible with Linux. It may require some work, but it's possible. Contrast that with the proprietary world where backward compatibility is a joke and often induced simply to sell new software.

Curious, but not at all surprising.

What? That Linux detractors make stuff up to try and prove a point?

Well, I agree.

49 posted on 06/17/2008 9:40:34 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: ccmay

I just found that upgrading various components of my PC every year or so to keep up with the games was getting more expensive than just buying a console every five years. And as opposed to one PC configuration the games just get better over a console’s lifetime as the developers better learn how to take advantage of the hardware (this is especially true for the PS3, and previouly the Nintendo 64). Now the only things my family plays on the Mac or PC are the little Popcap-type games or old games for nostalgia (the last Populous was great). Serious gaming gets done on the consoles.


50 posted on 06/17/2008 12:23:49 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Still Thinking
The “fishing filter” can be turned off.
51 posted on 06/17/2008 2:17:05 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: Enchante; TheRake
One of the problems with getting a Windows operating system working seamlessly is the vast amount of different hardware vendors out there. The major advantage Mac has over PC is they build the machines and write the OS. They know their hardware and software are compatible. This advantage obviously has its drawbacks, such as your ability to pick and chooses what hardware configurations you would like. Anyway, as I said before, if you want a good reliable computer out of the box then buy a Mac.
52 posted on 06/17/2008 2:23:33 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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