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Sun Seems Eerily Calm
Space.com ^ | 06/11/2008 | Andrea Thompson

Posted on 06/11/2008 12:00:22 PM PDT by cogitator

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1 posted on 06/11/2008 12:00:23 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe for tomorrow’s Doomage.


2 posted on 06/11/2008 12:00:57 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
The sun's surface has been fairly blank for the last couple of years, and that has some worried that it may be entering another Maunder minimum, the sun's 50-year abstinence from sunspots, which some scientists have linked to the Little Ice Age of the 17th century.

That's like worrying that we'll enter another Medieval Warm Period. We may well be entering another minimum, but another Maunder minimum would require time travel, as it was a specific historic event.

3 posted on 06/11/2008 12:02:18 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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"We still don't fully understand how the sun does this," Hathaway noted.

Really? This might be the big truth in the article.

4 posted on 06/11/2008 12:03:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto all beers)
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To: cogitator

By the way if we actually do enter a new minimum I propose the name “Cogitator Minimum.”


5 posted on 06/11/2008 12:03:59 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: cogitator
???????????????


6 posted on 06/11/2008 12:04:04 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: cogitator

Question: Do they really have records of sun spots going back 400 years???

Are they hard to see (I assume through smoked glass)

And when and why did the first guy look up and say Hey spots???

And though this backs up us “Deniers” they sure do bend over backwards to make certain everyone knows this won’t effect Global Warming...


7 posted on 06/11/2008 12:06:21 PM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: cogitator
Prior to the industrial revolution, the sun probably accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability
The Earth generates it's own heat now. Oh wait no it doesn't, Yes it does...
8 posted on 06/11/2008 12:07:21 PM PDT by allmost
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Something doesn't add up with that article. Can you spot it?

- The sun's energy drives all climate and weather on Earth. 

- But the sun isn't the only thing that influences our climate

- Prior to the industrial revolution, the sun probably 
  accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability

9 posted on 06/11/2008 12:08:00 PM PDT by avacado
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“Prior to the industrial revolution, the sun probably accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability, Hathaway told SPACE.com, but now that greenhouse gases have started to build up, “the sun’s contribution is getting smaller and smaller,” he added.”

So for kicks lets say that man accounts for 1% of the variability. Than the sun still accounts for 9 to 29% of climate variability. These people are just to much.


10 posted on 06/11/2008 12:10:16 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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By the way if we actually do enter a new minimum I propose the name “Cogitator Minimum.”

While I would be honored, I don't think I'm eligible, as I don't do statistical analysis of sunspot numbers.

Edward W. Maunder

11 posted on 06/11/2008 12:11:14 PM PDT by cogitator
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- Prior to the industrial revolution, the sun probably accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability

Obviously, the other 70 - 90 percent was caused by witches back then, but now, Big Oil has put all the witches out of work. ;~))

12 posted on 06/11/2008 12:11:33 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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Prior to the industrial revolution, the sun probably accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability, Hathaway told SPACE.com, but now that greenhouse gases have started to build up, "the sun's contribution is getting smaller and smaller," he added.

This "scientist" is blatantly lieing his ass off at the "Solar Variability, Earth's Climate and the Space Environment" Conference because he has to make sure he isn't exiled from his industry's gravy train.

Absolutely pathetic that "solar science" in the USA has fallen to such depths of swindling duplicity.

13 posted on 06/11/2008 12:12:46 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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the sun probably accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability

Other than witchcraft, what accounted for the rest?

Not sure what astonishes me more...people who continue to spout this drivel, people who continue to publish it, or people who continue to believe it?

14 posted on 06/11/2008 12:14:42 PM PDT by wbill
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To: avacado

Tee hee hee


15 posted on 06/11/2008 12:15:07 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: avacado
Not well written (and I'm never surprised by poor writing in popular science articles).

That last item should probably be expressed as, "Prior to the Industrial Revolution, variability of solar output probably accounted for 10-30% of climate variability."

Don't you think? Another way to say it is that prior to the Industrial Revolution, external forcing from the Sun accounted for about 30% of climate variability, and internal forcing (volcanoes, El Nino, AMO, PDO, snow and ice cover, etc.) accounted for the other 70%.

16 posted on 06/11/2008 12:17:09 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Ditto

It’s a rebus.


17 posted on 06/11/2008 12:18:01 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: RightWhale
Don't forget what Hathaway also said:

Prior to the industrial revolution, the sun probably accounted for about 10 to 30 percent of climate variability, Hathaway told SPACE.com, but now that greenhouse gases have started to build up, "the sun's contribution is getting smaller and smaller," he added.

This is a tough one, but I'm gonna make the call: That is the MOST STUPID statement I've read this month (and I read a lot).

18 posted on 06/11/2008 12:18:01 PM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: conservativehusker
I think the Chinese used to keep fairly accurate records going back hundreds of years.
19 posted on 06/11/2008 12:19:25 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: cogitator

Lead + Acid = Battery ;~))


20 posted on 06/11/2008 12:20:52 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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