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To: Golden Eagle
Oh well, they still have you worshiping their every move I guess.

My entire history on this board shows I appreciate quality and advanced engineering. I don't really care who makes it. Despite your claims, I've even praised Microsoft where praise was due.

You mean IBM's partnership with the Chicom government?

Like Intel's? Like Cisco's? Like Microsoft's? Like HP's?

Apple is in another league from Lenovo, anybody knows that but an IBM pimp.

Which is probably why you usually see me praising Apple's personal computers and laptops, and not saying much about IBM/Lenovo's. I specifically remember comparing the Air and Lenovo's competition, and stating the Air is better.

Not the Cell.

You are the one condemning all of IBM, not me. Microsoft's Xenon processor was designed by IBM, and essentially consists of three of the Cell's PowerPC units. But Microsoft decided to have a company from Singapore manufacture it instead of IBM, which probably would have made it with American workers in Fishkill, New York.

Nobody but Sony is using that, and they posted a 1.24 Billion dollar loss last year because of it.

Quite true, and I see you're Googling the subject again. I told you they were taking a loss on every PS3 made. They put an extremely over-powered processor in a game machine for the time. However, the Blu-Ray diode's initial cost is responsible for a lot of that loss. But things have picked up: the diode price went through the floor and the Cell has helped make the PS3 the most flexible and future-proof Blu-Ray player on the market, responsible for a large percentage of all Blu-Ray player sales.

Things have gotten so desperate they even sold their Cell chip plants to Toshiba LOL

Sony has been looking to get out of the fab business for years, long before the PS3. Fabbing is just too expensive to do when it's not a core component of a business. The game division troubles probably helped push it to happen though. Also remember that Microsoft ran billions in the red for years over the XBox. IIRC, Microsoft would have recently gone green if not for having to take a billion dollar charge to account for the poor design and manufacturing of the XBox 360.

I can hear Jobs laughing now.

Why would he? Not everybody is as hateful as you are.

102 posted on 06/12/2008 7:27:07 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
My entire history on this board shows I appreciate quality and advanced engineering. I don't really care who makes it.

You're on record saying you wish the iPod was made by Sony. Deny it? I have the link, and you've been reminded before.

Like Intel's? Like Cisco's? Like Microsoft's? Like HP's?

None of those companies sold a $10 billion/year business to the Chicoms for a measly $1 billion. Nor do they have a vested interest in China's dominance of any market like IBM hopes the Chinese dominate the PC market.

You are the one condemning all of IBM, not me.

No I'm not, I'm just pointing out their flaws despite your blind devotion to the Cell processor, which is the poster child for poorly utilized cores.

the Cell has helped make the PS3 the most flexible and future-proof Blu-Ray player on the market, responsible for a large percentage of all Blu-Ray player sales.

LMAO! Now you're so desperate you're even trying to credit IBM for Sony's sucess with their proprietary Blu-Ray technology. FYI Sony sells Blu-Ray players and PC's with Blu-Ray drives, and none of those use the Cell, nor are there any plans for them to use the Cell. But don't let facts get in the way of your endless sales pitch.

104 posted on 06/12/2008 7:47:46 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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