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To: Little Ray
the Indianapolis comes to mind....
7 posted on 06/04/2008 5:51:04 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Fight Racism - Vote McCain! - sticker asking for a new paint job and windows)
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To: Loud Mime

The Indianapolis was a Heavy Cruiser, not a Battlewagon!


9 posted on 06/04/2008 5:57:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Loud Mime
The Indianapolis was a cruiser, not a battleship.
10 posted on 06/04/2008 5:59:42 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Loud Mime

The Indianapolis was a heavy cruiser, not a battleship. In fact, the Indianapolis was a “treaty ship,” built under the restrictions of the 1922 Washington Naval Conference. Heavy cruisers were restricted to 10,000 tons. The Indianapolis was built for speed and lacked armor protection. No surprise that a pair of torpedoes put in her forward part while she was steaming at speed put her under in less than 30 minutes.

As for the battleships, they generally were able to take a pounding before going under.

After Pearl Harbor, the only American battleship struck by a torpedo after Pearl Harbor was the USS North Carolina, struck in the bow by a shot from I-19, the same spread that sank the USS Wasp. The “Showboat” steamed back to Pearl for repairs and continued to a brilliant war record.

The British lost a modern battleship (HMS Prince of Wales) and a WW1 vintage battlecruiser (HMS Repulse) to aerial torpedoes on December 8 off Malaya. Other than that, most battleships sunk were Japanese, and they either took a gunfire pounding (IJN Kirishima, by USS Washington; IJN Yamashiro by several older BB’s), or a combination of aerial bombs & torpedoes (IJN Yamato & Musashi).

One or two torpeodes, bombs or shells were usually not enough to kill a battleship, unless it was a “lucky hit,” such as scored by Bismarck on HMS Hood.


11 posted on 06/04/2008 6:00:49 AM PDT by henkster (Obama '08: A 3rd world state, here & now!)
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To: Loud Mime

The USS Indianapolis (CA-35) was a heavy cruiser (not a BB) commissioned in 1932, after the tests were completed. It was a “treaty cruiser” build under the limitations of the Washington Naval Treaty (10,000 tons, 8 inch guns), and laid down before these tests were conducted.


12 posted on 06/04/2008 6:03:43 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Loud Mime

“Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into our side, Chief. We was comin’ back from the island of Tinian to Leyte… just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb.

Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes.

Didn’t see the first shark for about a half an hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that when you’re in the water, Chief? You tell by looking from the dorsal to the tail.

What we didn’t know, was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn’t even list us overdue for a week.

Very first light, Chief, sharks come cruisin’, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. You know, it was kinda like old squares in the battle like you see in the calendar named “The Battle of Waterloo” and the idea was: shark comes to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and screamin’ and sometimes the shark go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away. Sometimes that shark he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a shark… he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be living… until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’, they all come in and they… rip you to pieces. You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don’t know how many sharks, maybe a thousand. I know how many men, they averaged six an hour.

On Thursday morning, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boatswain’s mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. Bobbed up, down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he’d been bitten in half below the waist.

Noon, the fifth day, Mr. Hooper, a Lockheed Ventura saw us. He swung in low and he saw us… he was a young pilot, a lot younger than Mr. Hooper. Anyway, he saw us and he come in low and three hours later a big fat PBY comes down and starts to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened… waitin’ for my turn. I’ll never put on a lifejacket again.

So, eleven hundred men went in the water; 316 men come out and the sharks took the rest, July the 30th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.”


14 posted on 06/04/2008 6:06:43 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Loud Mime

The Indianapolis was a cruiser built to the 1920’s treaty standards. It had nowhere near the armor of a battleship.


30 posted on 06/04/2008 7:19:48 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Loud Mime

The Indianapolis wasn’t a BB...

Mark


59 posted on 06/04/2008 7:21:04 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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