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Myself | 06/01/2008 | TheMom

Posted on 06/01/2008 8:33:05 PM PDT by TheMom

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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; Eaker

Can’t blame the X-Box ~ as the oldest child has been using that for the past three months.


161 posted on 06/01/2008 10:24:44 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: eastforker
Yeah......I have seen that as well.

They have great marketing ploy for service garages where they give big discounts off exorbitant pricing and still get huge markups, but they do have great warranty programs that cost them a buck or two for sure.

My tools come from everywhere.....lol.

162 posted on 06/01/2008 10:26:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4GuNiJZpfE&feature=related


163 posted on 06/01/2008 10:26:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MarkL
Ok - makes sense - thanks.
164 posted on 06/01/2008 10:27:29 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: MarkL

The switch is the newest additon . . . the oldest child purchased it because it was the cheapest item available. BUT - the regulator router still does not work.

Tomorrow I will exchange the switch for a router - hopefully that will solve out problem.


165 posted on 06/01/2008 10:27:30 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: mylife
sptimal performance?

I cannot be accountable for typo's after 9:00 pm.

166 posted on 06/01/2008 10:30:11 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: ccmay; Cold Heat
Mac's ain't perfect either. I understand they recently proved the OS could be hacked in 30 seconds or less......LOL.

The time to hack the Mac was 2 minutes... because that's how long it took to get the referees to navigate the computer to the pre-prepared website.

Charles Miler, the winner of the MacBook Air and $10,000 told interviewers that he, along with his team of two ex-NSA computer security experts, worked three weeks in advance of the CanSec West conference where the contest was held, to find the security hole in Mac OSX.

Vista was hacked six hours later but the team who did it had not done any advance preparation.

The LINUX laptop was not compromised, even on the third day of the contest.

167 posted on 06/01/2008 10:30:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

That is exactly what the new thingie looks like . . .

Tomorrow I plan on exchanging the new swich thingie for a router thingie.

(r u mpresed i have lrned the lingo)


168 posted on 06/01/2008 10:32:30 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

LOL - - thanks for the laugh.


169 posted on 06/01/2008 10:33:32 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: 2111USMC
I had some issues but I am a wireless junkie. I have bluetooth as well, and use voice commands and the like for my network and audio. I have lot's of signal and I need to do some manual configuration to eliminate it. I also have distance issues....It's a long house.

I just went through some more issue, when I switched to wireless N. The router is supposed to run all three possible network security protocols simultaneously, but it does not like it much. What it does, is use a lower range antenna which affects the newer "N" speed improvements.

This caused me to upgrade my modems, and put some on ethernet. I have nine on the network in a single family home......LOL....

170 posted on 06/01/2008 10:34:34 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Cold Heat
Apple is a company who is totally guilty of doing all the nefarious consumer ripoffs that Microsoft is constantly and falsely accused of doing.

The Apple culture is one that locks the user into a contract....unwritten........that forces said user to get most if not all of the services that Apple offers in a perpetual way.

The said users are not only comfortable with this arrangement, they defend it like junkies.

The whole thing is very worrisome to me. I have witnessed all sort of business models in all kinds of products, and only twice have I see this sort of emotion conveyed by users of a service or product in defense of the company.

Actually, this isn't something "new" in the computer industry. If anything "The Apple Model" is a step back in history. It's the sort of model used by just about every computer manufacturer... In the midrange and mainframe world. And guess what? It worked. You rarely if ever heard anyone complain about the fact that when you had a problem with your IBM System 34, you called IBM. And it didn't matter if it was a hardware or an OS problem. Because there were no incompatibilities. Because you had a single vendor.

This whole PC vs MAC thing is pretty annoying. You've got MAC users who used to use PCs that were never interested in being a "computer user" because they simply wanted to do their jobs or what they liked, using the computer as a tool. And when they couldn't do that on a PC, but could on a MAC for what ever reasons, they become evangelists.

On the other hand, you've got people who love playing with and hacking PCs who feel that it's important to their self esteem to decry those other people, simply because they didn't want to scour the Internet to find that one driver that would eventually fix the problem they're having. And when they do solve the problem, they announce to the world how wonderful they are.

Geez, I'm SO SICK OF IT!!!

Mark

171 posted on 06/01/2008 10:35:36 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Cold Heat
LOL!

And I thought we were bad!

(I will sheepishly admit that I had forgotten we have an X-Box on ours, also.)

172 posted on 06/01/2008 10:40:32 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: TheMom

From what I gathered from the reviews I read, the EARLY BEFSR41’s were OK, like the version 1’s or 1.2’s. (This is already more than I care to know about a product like this, just so you know) Firmware was “upgraded” to v 2—then v 4, and MANY folks who replaced their old, 5-6+ yr old ones that died went bananas and couldn’t make it work. The problems reported tended to occur on really big downloads or X-box applications where (I guess) big graphics files were being hosed back and forth. The router would just drop off line...OR, in some DSL applications it would time out. As I said, I am not any kind of power user, but rebooting your whole rig is a PITA. And when is it going to happen? When you need it, right?

I didn’t buy the Linksys based on a review or brand layoalty or disloyalty-—it was for sale el cheapo at a church sale, new in the box. I had it working pretty quickly after unboxing it but could NEVER get it to work after the very first time I simply plugged my laptop into it (having changed NOTHING, and at that point having 3 wired PCs hanging on the thing) not even one computer (only) straight thru.....so then I perused the reviews and found dozens and dozens of crazed and dissatified users. Next time I was at Fry’s, a Netgear WGR614 4-port + wireless router (yes, router) was on sale for $20 and I couldn’t not buy it after spending five+ hours trying to make the other one work. End of story!


173 posted on 06/01/2008 10:42:36 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: TheMom
We did contact Linksys . . . since out router was at least eight year old, they would not help unless we spent $32.95 for tech support.

I was using Linksys successfully until I did a firmware update about a month ago. The firmware killed the router. I'm fortunate that even though the router was 2 years old they issued a RMA. I'm using a crappy little Trendnet router now that has a wireless range of about 10 feet.

I should have left good-enough alone and not install the new firmware.

174 posted on 06/01/2008 10:43:46 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Swordmaker
Yeah, I read about that, but I like to poke the mac'ers....LOL

I'll bet they disabled the Vista protected mode as well. They did not mention it in the article, but the fact is, the machine will not execute anything without permissions granted by the user. They would have had to enable remote operation to do that, so when you look at it from a fair perspective. All the tests were likely rigged.

As for linux, It would totally depend on how many and which extra apps you were running. Without those, Linux would be impenetrable. It is the extra bells and whistles that are exploited. Linux basically has none. The more complex Mac OS's become, the vulnerable they will be.

Customers eventually will cause all these extras to be installed, and there ya go......

175 posted on 06/01/2008 10:44:18 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Cold Heat; Eaker

What the hell did you just say????

Eaker - help!! These folks are speaking Geek & I don’t understand.


176 posted on 06/01/2008 10:47:10 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: TheMom

Give the kid a book.


177 posted on 06/01/2008 10:48:07 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: politicalwit
Saw something on that firmware problem a while back. I don't recall if they had a fix. If the router is dead, It's not possible to get into it.....I suppose.

Same thing happened to the I-Pods that were hacked a while back. The firmware update was designed by Apple to kill the phone....Neat trick....

I can't imagine why buyers of Apple I-phones took it in stride and bought another....

Weird....

178 posted on 06/01/2008 10:49:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Allegra

Ah geez - I should have known to talk to you first about this issue.


179 posted on 06/01/2008 10:50:59 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby just graduated from High School - send money for college!)
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To: TheMom
Mom.....Ignore the post about security protocols, because I thought you had a wireless network. Apparently you don't and are using direct cable. or ethernet.
180 posted on 06/01/2008 10:51:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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