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To: Ken H; wagglebee; indcons; LS; archy; cpforlife.org; Vision; Salvation; Soul Seeker; Coleus; ...

Hitler was to blame for Hitler’s crimes. Personally responsible.

Now, a gotcha:

WAS HITLER FITTER than those he trampled in the Holocaust? I contend that honest Existentialist Darwinists must maintain that reprehensible position. Atheist Aryans, you know.

Conversely, the Bible says we all are desperately wicked, without hope or good in us except through salvation by faith. Sinners, saved by Grace. Suffices for me.


41 posted on 05/08/2008 6:34:32 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
WAS HITLER FITTER than those he trampled in the Holocaust? I contend that honest Existentialist Darwinists must maintain that reprehensible position. Atheist Aryans, you know.

You contend wrong.

43 posted on 05/08/2008 6:53:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Now, a gotcha:

WAS HITLER FITTER than those he trampled in the Holocaust? I contend that honest Existentialist Darwinists must maintain that reprehensible position. Atheist Aryans, you know.

Hitler lost the war and ended up permanently removed from the gene pool. How does that square with your "gotcha"?

47 posted on 05/08/2008 7:25:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Hitler was to blame for Hitler's crimes. Personally responsible.

Does that mean you think that blaming either the TOE or Christianity for Nazi atrocities is sophistry?

WAS HITLER FITTER than those he trampled in the Holocaust?

If by "fitter" you mean "more likely to survive", then I suppose he was "fitter" than his victims in Nazi Germany prior to 1945. If I walk unarmed in a high crime area, the local gang is "fitter" than me. Conversely, if a thug breaks into my home, chances are very good that I would be "fitter".

Now, if by "fitter" you mean he had more of a "moral right to survive", then my answer is "no".

Atheist Aryans, you know.

I think you are on shaky ground with that. Hitler publicly professed himself a Christian and declared that the Third Reich regarded Christianity as the foundation of the nation's morality. He also justified his racial policies as doing the will of the Eternal Creator.

Conversely, the Bible says we all are desperately wicked, without hope or good in us except through salvation by faith. Sinners, saved by Grace. Suffices for me.

Are Hitler's Jewish victims who kept their faith to the end doomed to Hell forever, as you understand NT Scripture?

49 posted on 05/08/2008 7:33:24 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
You're asking if a loser who was so gutless that he killed himself before his enemies closed in on him is "more fit" in Darwinian terms?

The question answers itself.

60 posted on 05/09/2008 6:03:51 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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