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Girl clueless Montreal pastor had claimed her as his wife on 10th birthday
The Canadian Press ^ | May 1, 2008 | Jonathan Montpetit

Posted on 05/02/2008 12:18:27 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

MONTREAL - A preteen girl was clueless during years of sexual abuse by the leader of a fringe Christian church that he had claimed her as his wife, a Quebec court heard Thursday.

"He said that I was his wife," said the woman, who cannot be identified. "At the time it didn't click. It went in one ear and out the other."

She later added that she "didn't really understand what (Cormier) meant" when he talked of marriage or engagement.

The Crown produced a paper, signed by Cormier's right-hand man at the now-defunct Church of Downtown Montreal, that stated the couple was married on her 10th birthday.

But all she remembers of that birthday in 1999 was a trip to the Granby Zoo.

"I do not consider myself his wife," she said, fidgeting with a pair of sunglasses. "I don't consider myself married in any way."

Cormier, 39 years her senior, stands accused of a variety of sex-related crimes, including sexual exploitation and sexual assault. He is also charged with sexually exploiting another girl, aged 16.

He denies the allegations regarding the 16-year-old, but says the marriage gave him the right to have sex with the witness who testified Thursday.

"He already considered us married," she said. "But he said we were going to get legally married when I was 16."

Last week, the woman's mother - an ex-drug addict and prostitute - told the court that Cormier helped take care of her family when they moved to Montreal in 1993.

The alleged victim acknowledged she originally thought Cormier was a "nice person" who bought her clothes and gave her money.

She testified Thursday that Cormier began touching her when she was around nine years old.

"After a while he started touching more," she said.

"He tried putting his penis inside me but never for very long. After a while he would start going for longer."

While she couldn't recall exactly how old she was during the alleged incidents, she indicated it was well before she started menstruating.

The woman refuses to appear in the same courtroom as Cormier and she testified via video link from an adjacent room, her eyes often averting the lawyers in the room.

The arrangement has been the object of much debate during the proceedings, which have dragged on for five years.

Cormier is defending himself but so far has been barred from cross-examining this witness.

He turned down an offer to submit a list of questions to a court-appointed lawyer.

"A cross-examination can't limit itself to a prepared list of questions," said Cormier, who since his arrest in 2003 has been taking law courses at a Montreal university.

"It can't simply be the work of a parrot."

Quebec court Judge Sylvie Durand will rule Friday on how the cross-examination will proceed.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: childrape; pastor
This world is full of sick puppies, it seems.
1 posted on 05/02/2008 12:18:28 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day
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To: Choose Ye This Day; metmom; greyfoxx39

This just keeps getting worse each day! Prayers for this girl.


2 posted on 05/02/2008 12:45:00 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (Doesn't share well with others so I could never ..... Keep it Sweet!!!!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

If fathers would start killing these pedoscum, the trend would start to disappear.

Bullets are cheap.


3 posted on 05/02/2008 12:45:40 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

So are plastic dropcloths and trashbags. For tidyness.

Just sayin’.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 12:47:33 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Obsessive Ex-Mormons: They can leave the Church, but they can't leave it alone.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
If fathers would start killing these pedoscum, the trend would start to disappear.
Bullets are cheap.

Bullets cause legal problems. ACCIDENTS, on the other hand...

5 posted on 05/02/2008 1:55:04 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Resisting”


6 posted on 05/02/2008 1:56:22 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: krb

“He fell down. Into oncoming traffic.”


7 posted on 05/02/2008 2:00:23 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Gross. Is there no end to this? It's like these selfish warps are crawling out of the woodwork.
8 posted on 05/02/2008 3:02:33 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Look both ways when crossing the street son and don't throw Gramma under the bus!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
"It went in one ear and out the other."

Now THAT'S some unusual sex abuse!

These are some sick people.

9 posted on 05/02/2008 4:53:05 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Earthdweller
Gross. Is there no end to this? It's like these selfish warps are crawling out of the woodwork.

That's what happens when it isn't dealt with appropriately, if you get my drift.

Gone are the days when people were allowed to deal with this themselves. So sad....

10 posted on 05/02/2008 6:11:32 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

When will the FLDS defenders show up on this thread to claim that the Quebec judicial system is persecuting a harmless man’s religion and lifestyle?


11 posted on 05/02/2008 6:30:38 AM PDT by Loyalist (Barrister & Solicitor of Her Majesty's Courts)
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To: Loyalist

This seems to be a growing trend in evangelical Christian churches what with the troubles in New Mexico and all.


12 posted on 05/02/2008 8:02:29 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Loyalist; Choose Ye This Day; TheDon; Grig

Who are the FLDS defendeers?

I have seen people trying to defend the Laws on the books so when they the sevants of the Law did enter that their efforts would set a lawful precedence.

What some folks are not picking up on is that if you let law enforcement break the laws on the Books than a precedence is set and the next time it could be to come after you Guns!

But if all the i’s and t’s were crossed before one raids than you still have preserved the government the founding Father gave you!


13 posted on 05/02/2008 10:07:11 AM PDT by restornu
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To: Choose Ye This Day; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; ...

14 posted on 05/02/2008 10:17:30 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: restornu
Who are the FLDS defenders?

It's just a red herring thrown out by those who like to bask in their presumed moral superiority.

15 posted on 05/03/2008 8:41:45 AM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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