Posted on 05/01/2008 9:58:37 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
So, We haven't been able to disprove there is a G*d.
That's good science?
I understand that there may be faith that there IS a G*d but accepting that there is a G*d because you can't disprove it is NOT good science.
I understand that there may be faith that there IS a G*d but accepting that there is a G*d because you can't disprove it is NOT good science.
Religion is not good science, but I can certainly disprove the existence of an omniscient God. Chaos theory, squaring a circle or Heisenbergs uncertainty principle prove that an omniscient God doesn't exist.
I personally enjoy asking fervent Christians to produce a clear, unambiguous prophecy that was fulfilled. Prophecy is the purpose of Prophets isn't it and with an omniscient God telling them what to say it should be a trivial request.
Such a prophecy doesn't exist.
Sorry, neither of those prove G*d DOESN'T exist.
Are you claiming that demonstrating that a God who is supposed to know everything, can’t know everything, doesn’t falsify its existence?
Just because mankind doesn't have the answer, or thinks the answer is unknowable, doesn't mean that there is no answer or that the answer is unknowable.
We come back to the age old question, if G*d is omnipotent can he make a boulder big enough that even he can't move it?
If G*d is omniscient there is nothing he doesn't know. Just because mankind doesn't know doesn't mean G*d doesn't know.
What you don't understand is that both states in total, don't exist. It isn't a matter of knowing, it doesn't exist and that is why an omniscient God can't know. Ergo an omniscient God doesn't exist :)
I personally enjoy asking fervent Christians to produce a clear, unambiguous prophecy that was fulfilled.
Why do you enjoy that?
Hank
“The Age of Gullibility”
A decent bit of reading, albeit on economics:
The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible: A Free Market Odyssey
by Ken Schoolland
http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Jonathan-Gullible-Market-Odyssey/dp/817188444X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209845344&sr=1-1
Your denying the proof means nothing. How can 'you' falsify the existence of God? If you can't then there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God.
I'm not trying to falsify the existence of G*d.
I'm saying by 'your' definition there is proof for the existence of G*d because you can't disprove it, according to your own theory.
Your saying that chaos theory or anything else disproves the existence of G*d is like an ant saying that because there is no giant lens that burns you up, there is no such thing as a human.
I'm saying by 'your' definition there is proof for the existence of G*d because you can't disprove it, according to your own theory.
You are confused then. Nothing can be proved, only falsified. If there is no test that can falsify something, then belief in that something is not scientific.
Your words.
You have not disproven the existence of G*d, therefore it MUST be "good science" to believe in the existence of G*d.
Chaos theory, squaring a circle or Heisenbergs uncertainty principle prove that an omniscient God doesn't exist.
No, they don't. Once again, just because mankind doesn't have, or know, the answer doesn't mean there isn't an answer and that G*d does NOT know it.
Hoist by your own petard.
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