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Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Richard Dawkins.net ^ | 4/20/08 | Richard Dawkins

Posted on 04/29/2008 8:38:43 PM PDT by Soliton

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1 posted on 04/29/2008 8:38:43 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

Ping to read later


2 posted on 04/29/2008 8:44:58 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Soliton; Mr. Silverback; DaveLoneRanger
I am a passionate Darwinian when it comes to the science of how life has actually evolved

Calling it science when it is not provable, not replicable is a LIE. Liberals lie at the premise. Dawkins is writing of his religion, his faith in those premises.

A previous posting of this article was pulled, by the way. Mere electronic eugenics versus the agony of live-born partial-birth abortions--which is most definitely pure Darwinism...
3 posted on 04/29/2008 8:47:50 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Calling it science when it is not provable, not replicable is a LIE. Liberals lie at the premise

You will get further if you address factual points in the letter.

4 posted on 04/29/2008 8:51:22 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Under what rationalization was it pulled?


5 posted on 04/29/2008 8:52:39 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

What Has Atheism Done for Us?
Townhall.com ^ | October 31, 2007 | Dinesh D’Souza

Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, watched the debate and reported with some agitation that the audience seemed to be applauding more for me than for Hitchens.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1928215/posts


Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1743679/posts


Much Lies Beyond the Grasp of Arrogant Atheism
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1743131/posts


CBS ‘Early Show’ Guest: ‘Killing Has Nothing to Do With Atheism’ (Whiskey Tango Hotel!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1931956/posts


6 posted on 04/29/2008 8:58:32 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Soliton

Can someone explain all this to me? This reeks, does not smell right....I have a feeling it will wind up being further “debunked” on snopes.com. Is he blaming Ben Stein for writing fake letters to people?


7 posted on 04/29/2008 9:02:09 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see" --Schopenhauer)
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To: Soliton; Sun; eeevil conservative

Under what rationalization did the eugenicists pull Terri Schiavo’s food and water? They said evil was good and good was evil.


Oh, you mean why was the THREAD pulled. I suppose it got pretty bloody between the would-be fittest vs. the bitter Bible gunners ;^)


8 posted on 04/29/2008 9:02:44 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Soliton; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

9 posted on 04/29/2008 9:04:30 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Oh, you mean why was the THREAD pulled. I suppose it got pretty bloody between the would-be fittest vs. the bitter Bible gunners ;^)

But this is the Evolution Caucus and we are protected from free speech

10 posted on 04/29/2008 9:08:17 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

The claim that Hitler was Catholic is just bogus. He may have been raised Catholic, but by the time he tookpower, he was as atheist as the Communists. And this author knows it.


11 posted on 04/29/2008 9:11:22 PM PDT by TBP
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The claim that Hitler was Catholic is just bogus. He may have been raised Catholic, but by the time he tookpower, he was as atheist as the Communists. And this author knows it.

Do you have a source for your claim?

12 posted on 04/29/2008 9:13:13 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton
I am a passionate Darwinian when it comes to the science of how life has actually evolved

Be that as it may, where did all this come from?

If Planck's Constant were changed by about 10^14, it would take so much energy to mvoe an atom that there probably wouldn't be any. if it were changed by an extremely miniscule number, life as we know it would be impossible. And that is just one variable.

Given that, is it possible that all of this just happened to come together the way it has on its own? Yes, there is some nonzero probability that it could. B ut given the miniscule windows on the large number of factors required, the probability is so miniscule that it may as well be zero.

The simplest explanation that covers allteh facts is that something, some force, soem energy, some conscious entity, drove the Universe to be the way it is.

Whatever other characteristics you may assign to that Force, that is God, the Creator.

13 posted on 04/29/2008 9:20:45 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Soliton

The problem isn’t on any ‘evolution caucus’ out in cyberspace.

The problem is the theofascists who try to quash free speech on the topic at taxpayer-funded schools.


14 posted on 04/29/2008 9:22:47 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: TBP
You forgot nudist and vegetarian.
15 posted on 04/29/2008 9:35:18 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: TBP

The claim that Hitler was Catholic is just as bogus as the claim that he was a Darwinian. Hitler was the nexus of many historic and psychic currents. He was the focal point of an incredible flux of events that thrust him into a prominence that no one could have anticipated, and that the world still struggles to comprehend.


16 posted on 04/29/2008 9:38:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: TBP

Your observations pertain to God as “final cause”. My most immediate criticism of ID is its incoherence; it’s failure to distinguish between the apparent ID required to “design” a universe, nay a reality - an existence, governed by the Laws of Physics that we discern, and the ID that is claimed to be necessary to account for a particular confluence of particles in this universe experienced by us as “life as we know it”.

The two ideas are so disparate as to be contradictory, for if God was so wise as to design a universe fit for life, why did he have to tinker with his own design to bring it about? I ask you that!


17 posted on 04/29/2008 9:53:21 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Calling it science when it is not provable, not replicable is a LIE.

And ID is a science? Or should ID be taught in science classes?

18 posted on 04/29/2008 10:13:12 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Two questions, Two answers.

ID is a science? NO. No more than evolution. Scientific METHOD should be applied to all observed phenomena and fraudulent alleged phenomena, such as Piltdown Man.

ID should be taught in science classes? YES, as hypotheses, not fact, given equal time with evolution or none to either.


19 posted on 04/29/2008 10:22:20 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: TBP
The claim that Hitler was Catholic is just bogus.

He was baptized as a Catholic. So was Teddy Kennedy, for what it's worth. You have little say in what happens when you are a child, I would love to see Mr. Dawkins give some concrete examples of Hitler's Catholicism as an adult.

20 posted on 04/29/2008 10:30:34 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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