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To: mnehrling

“he freely chose the situation he is in”

What if he can’t get promotion? Then he doesn’t deserve a doctor because he is incapable of promotion?

As I said, taxes are staggered so the poor don’t subsidise much.


46 posted on 04/24/2008 8:42:33 AM PDT by britlabour
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To: britlabour
What if he can’t get promotion? Then he doesn’t deserve a doctor because he is incapable of promotion?

That must be the difference in the UK, here, the job market is such that if you are willing to sacrifice, work harder, get educated, maybe switch jobs, you can get a promotion, but the choice is in your hands.

48 posted on 04/24/2008 8:44:39 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: britlabour
What if he can’t get promotion? Then he doesn’t deserve a doctor because he is incapable of promotion?

Awww, the poor baby. He deserves a doctor if he can find one for what he can possibly pay. If he can't find one that will take low pay, he'll just have to rely on charity.
49 posted on 04/24/2008 8:45:44 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: britlabour

I think you are misunderstanding something very important that several people here have already hinted at. In the US, even though we don’t have universal healthcare, the poor are already taken care of through medicade and other programs. All a universal program would do is put in the government’s hands a program that the people who aren’t already covered, can afford to pay on their own.

It is understandable that you don’t know this, if you listen to politicians, you would think all the poor are dieing from lack of insurance. This, of course, isn’t the case. The poor are already covered.


52 posted on 04/24/2008 8:51:08 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: britlabour
I can't remember is this is in Canada or the UK, but waiting times at emergency rooms had gotten so bad that a law was passed that all persons in an emergency room must be seen within 3 hours of their arrival.

To try and meet this requirement, emergency rooms are having ambulances keep the patient onboard and in the parking lot until such that time they will be seen within 3 hours after they enter the building. The clock doesn't start ticking until the person actually is brought inside.

So the ambulance can sit in the parking lot for 5 hours, and then the person wait in the emergency room for 2.5 hours, and technically, they have met the 3 hour requirement.

64 posted on 04/24/2008 9:12:16 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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