No, my point is . . . paper slides on straws may not have been invented yet when she was a child, or before he died. She might get caught in another lie on this.
Aha! Point taken. Which lie came first - I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, or I played the straw slider on the front porch with grandpa, the mill worker!
We know one thing for sure, both were long before the sniper fire in Tuzla lie, when she was getting all that presidential experience as First Lady.