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The tile is about ten years old and has lived well beyond its 3-year warranty. Some of the tiles came loose recently, right in front of our dishwasher. The high humidity in that immediate area probably led to the adhesive wearing out more quickly than the rest of the tiles. Its the rest of the tiles I am having a problem with, actually. The kitchen is high traffic and most of the tiles seem to be nearly ground in to the luaun underlayment. With the exception of the area by the dishwasher, most of the adhesive seems to be as gluey as ever, and so I am having a heck of a time getting the tiles up. I have been using a metal edge putty knife and hammer to prise the tiles from the floor, but it is taking forever.

Any ideas on how I can speed up the process? If you don't have any ideas, do you know any good home improvement message boards? ANY bit of advice you can give me is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance.

I might not be able to respond quickly or to everyone because I'll be working on the floor between freeping. Thanks again for any help you can give!

1 posted on 04/21/2008 8:13:52 AM PDT by grellis
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call a contractor, open a beer, and watch him work.


27 posted on 04/21/2008 8:31:48 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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What are you putting down instead?

We just did Pergo in the kitchen. It’s dream flooring and went right over the old stuff.


30 posted on 04/21/2008 8:33:09 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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I spent three days removing the old flooring, it was a pain, then my contractor for ceramic told me, he would just put the new tile over the old floor. I had big scrapers, and roofing tools, the thing that worked the best was the heat gun. Inch by Inch, it took a long time.


32 posted on 04/21/2008 8:38:59 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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Try a little acetone, be careful, vent well, wear a mask and gloves, IF you decide to use it. It will usually loosen most glues, including super glue types.


34 posted on 04/21/2008 8:47:30 AM PDT by calex59
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What are you replacing them with?

Getting my previous home ready for sale a couple years ago I needed to replace the wood floors in the entry way, dining room, and hallway. Knowing that the vinyl kitchen floor was a big downside when someone viewed the home, I just ran the new wood floor right over it.

35 posted on 04/21/2008 8:51:17 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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UGH... you just brought back bad memories of remodeling our older home. There was actually about 3 layers of the crap on my floor. Just backbreaking work, is all I can remember...


36 posted on 04/21/2008 8:51:35 AM PDT by gibsosa
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I've tried both dry ice and heat guns - I think which one you use depends on subsurface and how much mess - dry ice makes everything come up slower than heat, but in nice sweepable pieces.

The heat gun (fumes notwithstanding) - is faster, but messier and gooey.

I did dry ice on standard wood subsurface and heat gun on a metal (US Navy Frigate) floor ("deck")...

37 posted on 04/21/2008 8:54:56 AM PDT by NorCoGOP (Stop Billary 2008! If nothing else, think of the White House sinks!)
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Rent one of these.


38 posted on 04/21/2008 8:56:07 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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Forget all the stuff above. This is what you want:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=37073

It’s the only thing that will get up impossible tiles or linoleum, I know, I’ve did it about 5 months ago. You’ll need the air scraper, a compressor, and hose. The scraper comes with a 4” blade, it shouldn’t break, but get another just in case. You hook up the scraper, fire up the compressor, and just push it along under the tiles. It should zip them right up.

Some places may rent this, but I had no such luck, I had to buy it. It’s very useful.


39 posted on 04/21/2008 8:58:05 AM PDT by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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if you have, or can obtain, a small plumbers propane torch, you might try heating them a bit by passing the flame over a tile for 10 to 20 seconds before you try to pry it up

it may blaken the old tile a bit but should not set it aflame, while it also lossens the glue that is under the tile


45 posted on 04/21/2008 10:02:51 AM PDT by Wuli
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I've been there and done that.

If the builder put down luaun, then get a pro to replace it with Fiberrock underlay. Luaun and moisture don't get along at all.

I ended up replacing my entire subfloor. Not what I wanted, but we won't have any more problems.

If you are using luaun, then skimcoat the entire area before you put anything down. I would pull up the tiles that are easy, then skim over the rest. Works great in rent houses and homes you will sell in a few years.

There are also flexible vinyls that are great over wood floors. Just cut to fit and drop it down with tape or the correct glues. Remember to put quarter round trim around the edges.

Do it correctly, spend a fair amount of money. Do it cheaply, then the new owners can cuss your memory in a few years, as I did to our home's previous owners.

46 posted on 04/21/2008 10:46:55 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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47 posted on 04/21/2008 10:51:55 AM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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We had the same sticky mess after when we removed old vinyl tile from oak hardwood flooring. We used a wax cleaner that says “Do Not Use on Vinyl Tile” and it dissolved the glue very quickly. Just make sure you have good ventilation and lots and lots of paper towels to wipe up the mess.
48 posted on 04/21/2008 12:21:28 PM PDT by LSAggie
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1. Move everything out of the house.
2. Put everything in storage under someone else’s name.
3. Buy a random bunch of furnishings at a garage sale.
4. Go out of town, maybe take the family camping.
5. Have the insurance company fix the house up as needed when it just happens to burn down during the camping trip.

Oh, sorry, just tryin’ to help.


52 posted on 04/21/2008 7:07:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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These are very important. If the tiles came loose in front of the refrigerator have you thought about moving it around the room till they all came loose. If this might take too long see if you can get a group of 7-12 year old boys with scrapers. Get your wife to film it and make a memory that will last. I looked at your profile to come up with this plan.

57 posted on 04/22/2008 10:36:09 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (The night ThomasThomas wore his wolf suit and made mischief of one kind and another ....")
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