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To: elfman2
“God could have created life in evolutionary theory.”

You have proven you have absolutely no idea what the Theory of Evolution states, none at all. It HAS, I repeat HAS TO BE ABSENT ANY GOD OR ANY GUIDING AT ALL. Even the evolutionistas in the film didn't deny this. You hold to just the most ridiculous ID argument, i.e. “that it's ID, but the mechanism is evolution or natural selection.

What is horrifying is that even evolutions proponents don't have any grasp of just how ridiculous the damned thing is, or that it's bereft of any fossil evidence for it's claims.

201 posted on 04/19/2008 4:00:34 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Go see Ben Stein's new movie, Do it now!!!!)
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To: Carl from Marietta; mnehrling
"You have proven you have absolutely no idea what the Theory of Evolution states, none at all. It HAS, I repeat HAS TO BE ABSENT ANY GOD OR ANY GUIDING AT ALL. "

I don’t mind correcting ignorance, God knows I’ve needed some correcting, but lose the attitude if you want this to be a discussion.

Talk Origins is as far as I know the premiere site in defense of evolution. This is from their Evolution and Creationism FAQ page,

Q3: Does evolution contradict creationism:

"There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent, tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did. (emphasis mine)

If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists. "

Q5. Does evolution deny the existence of God?
No. See question 1. There is no reason to believe that God was not a guiding force behind evolution. While it does contradict some specific interpretations of God, especially ones requiring a literal interpretation of Genesis 1, few people have this narrow of a view of God.

There are many people who believe in the existence of God and in evolution. Common descent then describes the process used by God. Until the discovery of a test to separate chance and God this interpretation is a valid one within evolution.

In other words, the theory of evolution is agnostic as to the first origins of life, operates under the assumption that there is no divine intervention (ID), but does not claim to be incompatible with it. Abiogenesis, not evolution, is the study of how life may have developed without God’s intervention, and even then, Abiogenesis does not necessarily deny the existence of God or his roll behind creation.

I can't speak to your movie, but if you think it contradicted this, you should reconsider your interpretation of it or your trust in it. What I've given you is straight from the source. Still don't believe it, google up another evo site online. There must be hundreds.

PS, loose the attitude.

203 posted on 04/19/2008 6:47:47 PM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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