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To: higgmeister
This is where I just don't understand thumpers!

If God created The Universe and therefore every particle of matter and energy in it. Then when life sprang from the primordial cauldron three billion years ago, how could that not be God creating life through evolution? Why should that diminish one's faith?

It shouldn't indeed, but modern biblical literalists simply ignore the contradiction you aptly point out.

Here's yet another example: The Bible repeatedly uses creationistic language to describe God's making of individual human beings in the womb. Pardon my laziness in not looking up all the verses for you just now, but you could probably google them fairly easily. They're mostly the same widely used as anti-abortion "proof texts," and thus are often collected and quoted together. Anyway it's stuff like God saying, or it being said of God (again, pardon approximate quotes) that "He knits you together of bone and sinew," and "forms your inwards parts," or "made you in that secret place (the womb)" and such like.

Granted much of this language is poetic, but nevertheless it is clearly teaching that God is actively, intimately and personally involved in the creation of individual human beings in the womb, and of their physical bodies, not just their "spirits".

Thus, by the same logic that Biblical literalists object to evolution, because it "denies" God by substituting a "purely natural" process in the creation of the human species, they OUGHT to also object to the teaching of embryology as a natural scientific phenomena with no explicit place for God. This "denies" the Bible as much as evolution does, in some respects more.

But of course they don't object to teaching embryology in science classes; even though this is abritrary and contradictory.

Oh, another fun example, although in this case, unlike God's forming fetuses, an isolated one: There is, IIRC, a verse in the book of Amos which asserts that, "God creates the wind." I believe the verb here is a form of the same one used in Genesis, which Biblical literalists sometimes insist ONLY refers to "special" creation or creation "ex nihilo;" that is direct and miraculous creative acts by God, or those that involve creation "out of nothing".

Thus meteorology is also atheistic and denies God and denies the Bible.

122 posted on 04/17/2008 4:50:59 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis
Good points that I had not considered

I also believe many of the references in the Bible that have been obscure for a few thousand years can now be more aptly considered with our scientific understanding.

I believe it is very likely that the Nephilim were a reference to the other hominids that existed parallel with modern humanity for a time and could easily have been a racial memory in the time the first stories of our origins were handed down. Genesis then finally makes perfect sense!

141 posted on 04/17/2008 9:01:23 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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