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Ben Stein's Intelligent Adventure (Review of EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed)
American Thinker ^ | April 13,2008 | Kate Wright

Posted on 04/13/2008 5:17:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Coyoteman

No honest review would equate ID and Creationism.


61 posted on 04/16/2008 6:52:10 AM PDT by Sloth (A domestic enemy of the Constitution will become POTUS on January 20, 2009.)
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To: Sloth
No honest review would equate ID and Creationism.

Why not?

The Discovery Institute's Wedge Strategy lays out the plan whereby they will push religion in the guise of science.

The phrase “cdesign proponentsists” in a draft of the Pandas book shows that the term “design proponents” almost completely replaced “creationists” in 1987, following the U.S. Supreme Court's Edwards decision. None of the definitions or text changed -- just "creationists" being replaced by "design proponents."

And finally a Federal District Court has weighed the evidence and determined that ID is creationism (Dover).

So why is it that a review would not note this obvious connection between ID and creationism.

62 posted on 04/16/2008 8:31:06 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: onewhowatches
"And you're showing yours: Yellow."

Oh, my, what a brilliant reply. I never, ever considered that way -- That I'm Yellow. But now that I think about it, Wow! I am Yellow (what's the matter, don't like Asians?)! That's just totally devastating. I don't know how anyone could recover from that. And such amazing insight and intuitive, and inferential, and nay -- dare I say it -- deductive reasoning! I'm floored. I'm stunned. I'm doing kowtows in front my computer, chanting, "I am not worthy! I am not worthy!" over and over again. I don't know how I'll ever manage to post on any forum ever again. Nay, I don't know if I'll ever again be able type another word, I'm so stunned by the brilliance of your response.

Let me read that again: "And you're showing yours: Yellow."

Wow! It's even better the second time. The diamond-like brilliance shines out brighter than a thousand suns. Shakespeare was ne'er so pithy, Byron such a wit, nor Elvis more tuneful! I can't see how anything I ever read will ever again be enjoyable in the shadow of your comment. Food shan't ever again be as flavorful nor drink as intoxicating.

That's just... I really don't know what more to write... I really don't.... I mean, just... Wow!

Sound familiar???

63 posted on 04/16/2008 8:37:27 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak
Well, you've had that same personal attack removed twice by the moderators (#52 and #59).

Want to try for three times? Or are you capable of learning from your mistakes?

64 posted on 04/16/2008 8:39:36 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: celmak
A lesbian, who’s good looking enough to pose in Playboy and smart enough to edit Scientific American. If that were a real person, I’d be in love

Iv'e heard that some Evolutionist scientists believe it is the highest point in Evolution. Since you know so much about science, what do you say about homosexuality?

I couldn't care less one way or another.

65 posted on 04/16/2008 8:48:30 AM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: celmak

Wow! You remembered a comment of mine and thought it good enough to borrow it. Thank you for the compliment with regard to my writing.


66 posted on 04/16/2008 8:50:17 AM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: Coyoteman
Well, you've had that same personal attack removed twice by the moderators (#52 and #59).Want to try for three times? Or are you capable of learning from your mistakes?

And you have shown once again that you and you ilk cannot take rightful criticism. what I said was true and you know it! Your ilk are killing homosexuals with your lies while we want them to live! If the moderator wants to take this one off by your squealing then I will write again and again and again! Nothing I have said merits being censored; a but we are talking about "Expelled; No Intelligence Allowed" aren't we???

67 posted on 04/16/2008 8:50:52 AM PDT by celmak
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To: onewhowatches
I couldn't care less one way or another.

LOL! And you call me Yellow!

68 posted on 04/16/2008 8:57:06 AM PDT by celmak
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To: onewhowatches
Wow! You remembered a comment of mine and thought it good enough to borrow it. Thank you for the compliment with regard to my writing.

It's called eating your own words.

69 posted on 04/16/2008 8:58:58 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak; onewhowatches
onewhowatches: Wow! You remembered a comment of mine and thought it good enough to borrow it. Thank you for the compliment with regard to my writing.

celmak: It's called eating your own words.

The English language joins science on the list of subjects of which you are ignorant.

70 posted on 04/16/2008 9:04:28 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: celmak
Nothing I have said merits being censored

But I notice you left off the personal attack on this post--after the first two were Removed by Moderator.

Maybe you are capable of learning!

You might try this site: Expelled Exposed: Flunked, not expelled: what Ben Stein isn't telling you about intelligent design. Perhaps you will learn something there.

71 posted on 04/16/2008 9:14:55 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: celmak
Wow! You remembered a comment of mine and thought it good enough to borrow it. Thank you for the compliment with regard to my writing.

It's called eating your own words.

And tasty words they are, should I have to eat them. If it makes you feel better to think I am, then go right ahead and imagine me chowing down on them.

72 posted on 04/16/2008 9:50:30 AM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: celmak
I couldn't care less one way or another.

LOL! And you call me Yellow!

Hardly. If someone is homosexual, I have no problems with it one way or the other. The only reasons I would care is for the potential humor value. Or if they are in the mold of Roy Cohn, in which case the problem is hypocrisy, not homosexuality.

73 posted on 04/16/2008 9:54:06 AM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: Mamzelle
There is nothing extreme about finding the roots of Darwinism in the Holocaust--the "Master Race" was about exterminating "inferiors"-

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.

-- Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed.

The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

74 posted on 04/16/2008 9:59:00 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Coyoteman
Why not? The Discovery Institute's Wedge Strategy lays out the plan whereby they will push religion in the guise of science.

OK, but again, "religion" is not the same thing as "creationism."

The phrase “cdesign proponentsists” in a draft of the Pandas book shows that the term “design proponents” almost completely replaced “creationists” in 1987, following the U.S. Supreme Court's Edwards decision. None of the definitions or text changed -- just "creationists" being replaced by "design proponents."

Obviously creationists are design proponents, in the same way that Bassett hounds are dogs. The latter is a broader term. That doesn't legitimize identifying all dogs as Bassett hounds.

And finally a Federal District Court has weighed the evidence and determined that ID is creationism (Dover).

LOL, so a court can tell people that they don't really believe what they think they do! Good one.

So why is it that a review would not note this obvious connection between ID and creationism.

Connection? Sure. But pushing ID does not equal pushing Creationism, at least as the word has always been understood.

75 posted on 04/16/2008 10:12:11 AM PDT by Sloth (A domestic enemy of the Constitution will become POTUS on January 20, 2009.)
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To: Coyoteman
But I notice you left off the personal attack on this post--after the first two were Removed by Moderator.

There were no personal attacks, only the fact that how you and your Evo sudo-scientist belief that it is the highest point of Evolution in being homosexual giving them the idea that it is OK to be one; this theory is killing then and you have their blood on your hands.

76 posted on 04/16/2008 10:28:59 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak
But I notice you left off the personal attack on this post--after the first two were Removed by Moderator.

There were no personal attacks, only the fact that how you and your Evo sudo-scientist belief that it is the highest point of Evolution in being homosexual giving them the idea that it is OK to be one; this theory is killing then and you have their blood on your hands.

There were personal attacks; that is why your posts were removed by the moderators.

(Someone reposted your original post at DarwinCentral, so it is no use denying what you wrote.)

77 posted on 04/16/2008 10:39:45 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: onewhowatches
Or if they are in the mold of Roy Cohn, in which case the problem is hypocrisy, not homosexuality.

Since all Evo's are either Socialist or Communist It is evident you don't like Cohn for his anti-Communism rather than possibly being homosexual; go back to Huffington Post!

78 posted on 04/16/2008 10:39:58 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak
Since all Evo's are either Socialist or Communist...

Keep posting.

You're just demonstrating the accuracy of what Lincoln wrote about remaining silent.

79 posted on 04/16/2008 10:42:45 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
Someone reposted your original post at DarwinCentral, so it is no use denying what you wrote

Can't find it; are you lying?

80 posted on 04/16/2008 10:47:49 AM PDT by celmak
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