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To: From many - one.; Ethan Clive Osgoode

I have been looking for all this evidence. So far one thing leads to another which leads to another, and I’m still not finding these solid proofs or mountains of evidence.

I can see how, if one had an aversion to the possibility of a supernatural first cause, they could sort of piece together a bunch of little facets and believe in their hearts that it could have happened Darwin’s way. But so far, my search for anything even nearing faith-free science on the topic has been unconvincing.

Of course everywhere people repeat the mantra “Oh it’s true, we all evolved from slime; slime came from the rocks; the rocks came from, ultimately, nothing...” but my observation is that for most people it’s just pure faith. They believe it not because they’ve seen evidence, but because they’ve decided to trust in people they’ve never met.

What am I to do when for most people it’s a pure faith, and those who are certain that it’s fact for them have a hard time showing the evidence?

Thanks,

-Jesse


965 posted on 04/15/2008 9:55:59 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse
What am I to do when for most people it’s a pure faith, and those who are certain that it’s fact for them have a hard time showing the evidence?

Well, you could follow the lead blazed by some notable darwinian posters here (ie Coyoteman and others) who flatly assert by fiat that truth has no place in science, and what you believe has no relevance either way. Following their peculiar philosophic outlook on science, you can can conveniently disregard darwinism as untrue, since according to them there's no truth in science anyway, and disbelieve the whole lot of it, since what you do or do not believe is irrelevant, as they say. That should make them happy.

966 posted on 04/16/2008 2:28:06 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (see FR homepage for Euvolution v0.2.1)
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To: mrjesse

If by slime you mean myxomycota, we didn’t come from slime and slime didn’t come from rocks. Myxomycotes are pretty complex themselves and quite interesting.

Introduction to the “Slime Molds”
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/protista/slimemolds.html

As for the rest of your post, I don’t participate in obfuscatory argument, just provide bits of information, where relevant.


967 posted on 04/16/2008 4:57:20 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: mrjesse
I have been looking for all this evidence.

Not very hard. Instead of demanding to be spoon fed, you could actually visit your local university library, and you could peruse the approximately 93,000 journal articles available here. It takes time and effort to learn the specifics of evolutionary biology. I know, I know. It really should be as easy as watching TV. But it's not.

968 posted on 04/16/2008 5:04:10 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: mrjesse
What am I to do when for most people it’s a pure faith, and those who are certain that it’s fact for them have a hard time showing the evidence?

I'm curious: what would be an example of the kind of evidence you're looking for? I think you've abandoned the idea (if you ever held it) that there was ever such a thing as a half-dog, half-fish. And it seems like you understand that the 5000 years of recorded history is minuscule compared to the evolutionary timescale. So what would be something that really made you think, wow, that's strong evidence?

972 posted on 04/16/2008 5:58:18 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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