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To: From many - one.
What science is ok with Huckabee?

Best I can tell, he rules out much of geology, physics, cosmology, astronomy and most of biology.

The notion that conservatives are waging a "war on science" has gained much traction in the media lately. And the anti-evolution position of some conservatives has, as National Review Editor Rich Lowry has written, "play[ed] into the image of Republicans as the anti-science party."

Its not just an "image" -- its a fact. This website is a prime example. Most scientists have left in disgust. They probably got tired of being told that they were going to hell, or being compared to nazis.

But the scientific community has nothing to fear from candidates like Mike Huckabee, for on many important public policy issues, religious conservatives have become the true champions of science.

Pure BS. "Religious conservatives," as shown by many on this website, are more likely to be champions for ID or YEC than science. Some appear to want a theocracy in place of our republic. See the Wedge Strategy for details. That's what the Discovery Institute meant when they wrote,

We are building on this momentum, broadening the wedge with a positive scientific alternative to materialistic scientific theories, which has come to be called the theory of intelligent design (ID). Design theory promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions [emphasis added].

26 posted on 03/29/2008 7:28:54 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

I am open to debate and explore this topic. My first question is this: How has science demonstrated through either (a) observation or (b) experimentation that evolution is proven scientifically?


32 posted on 03/29/2008 7:35:34 PM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain says I am an agent of intolerance, he's right - I can't tolerate liberal Republicans!)
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To: Coyoteman

Boo hoo. Cry me a river.

The *scientists* did their own share of comparisons, too, regularly comparing anyone who believed in creation to the Taliban who want to take us back to the Dark Ages.

*Talibornagain* is the phrase I seem to recall seeing on other websites. :)


33 posted on 03/29/2008 7:35:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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The following are a few of my favorite quotes on Intelligent Design, dedicated to the geniuses who cannot find any “evidence” of it in nature.

“This most elegant system of the sun, planets, and comets could not have arisen without the design and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being.” —Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727), The Principia

“Overwhelmingly strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us.” —Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)

“The more I study nature, the more I am amazed at the work of the Creator.” —Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)

“The Darwinian theory has become an all-purpose obstacle to thought rather than an enabler of scientific advance.” —Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel-laureate physicist

“So if one proceeds directly and straightforwardly in this matter, without being deflected by a fear of incurring the wrath of scientific opinion, one arrives at the conclusion that biomaterials with their amazing measure of order must be the outcome of intelligent design. ... The notion that not only the biopolymer but the operating program of a living cell could be arrived at by chance in a primordial organic soup here on the Earth is evidently nonsense of a high order.” —Sir Fred Hoyle, British astonomer (and self-professed atheist), from a lecture in 1982

The following quote is attributed to Isaac Newton on a creationist website, but no reference was cited, and I have not confirmed its authenticity. Does anyone know the original source of this quote?

“Can it be by accident that all birds beasts & men have their right side & left side alike shaped (except in their bowells) & just two eyes & no more on either side the face & just two ears on either side the head & a nose with two holes & no more between the eyes & one mouth under the nose & either two fore leggs or two wings or two arms on the sholders & two leggs on the hipps one on either side & no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel & contrivance of an Author? Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juyces with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eys of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to beleive that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therfore to be feared?” —Sir Isaac Newton?


43 posted on 03/29/2008 8:28:00 PM PDT by RussP
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75 posted on 03/29/2008 10:51:56 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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The dog-faced boy has arrived!

You still need your rabies shots.


166 posted on 03/30/2008 4:36:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Coyoteman
Its not just an "image" -- its a fact. This website is a prime example. Most scientists have left in disgust. They probably got tired of being told that they were going to hell, or being compared to nazis.

The "scientists" you speak of had some strange habits, like thread hijacking and even invading a prayer thread, after being warned not to by a moderator. Just maybe their own behavior had something to do with their demise. But the fact of the matter is that FR is a website for conservative politics, not obsessing over the theory of evolution. That's why most people don't know or care that the "scientists" have been given the boot.

198 posted on 03/30/2008 8:17:35 PM PDT by Hacksaw (I support the tiger.)
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