Posted on 03/29/2008 6:54:19 PM PDT by wastedpotential
Debate is irrelevant.
Study the subject. Not just digests and lay articles, the subject itself. Then get back to us.
I have yet to see an opponent of evolution who actually understands the subject. The opposition is to a comic book misrepresentation of both general science and the specifics of evolutionary biology.
Do you know how old Gov. Huckabee believes the Earth to be?
The following are a few of my favorite quotes on Intelligent Design, dedicated to the geniuses who cannot find any “evidence” of it in nature.
“This most elegant system of the sun, planets, and comets could not have arisen without the design and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being.” —Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727), The Principia
“Overwhelmingly strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us.” —Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
“The more I study nature, the more I am amazed at the work of the Creator.” —Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)
“The Darwinian theory has become an all-purpose obstacle to thought rather than an enabler of scientific advance.” —Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel-laureate physicist
“So if one proceeds directly and straightforwardly in this matter, without being deflected by a fear of incurring the wrath of scientific opinion, one arrives at the conclusion that biomaterials with their amazing measure of order must be the outcome of intelligent design. ... The notion that not only the biopolymer but the operating program of a living cell could be arrived at by chance in a primordial organic soup here on the Earth is evidently nonsense of a high order.” —Sir Fred Hoyle, British astonomer (and self-professed atheist), from a lecture in 1982
The following quote is attributed to Isaac Newton on a creationist website, but no reference was cited, and I have not confirmed its authenticity. Does anyone know the original source of this quote?
“Can it be by accident that all birds beasts & men have their right side & left side alike shaped (except in their bowells) & just two eyes & no more on either side the face & just two ears on either side the head & a nose with two holes & no more between the eyes & one mouth under the nose & either two fore leggs or two wings or two arms on the sholders & two leggs on the hipps one on either side & no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel & contrivance of an Author? Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juyces with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eys of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to beleive that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therfore to be feared?” —Sir Isaac Newton?
I think, because he is too liberal. He only got as far as he did because is not Mormon.
Your logic doesn’t make sense. McCain is far more liberal than Huck. Face it, the media picked our candidate.
I don't care enough to argue that. They are both liberals. However, McCain talked more conservative this time.
No biologists in your list, except for Louis Pasteur who simply agreed with the majority of scientists in Europe and America.
The fact is that just a few Biblical literalists in the United States and fundamentalist Moslems have trouble understanding how evolution fits in, and seem to be emotionally wedded to refusing honest inquiry into the subject.
Hey, newb. Welcome to FR.
Just jumping into a crevo type thread, are you? What’s your previous screen name?
Sure I did. I asked you how you knew he ruled out most of science.
So how do you know?
I thought towards the end Huck did well. I also like him better on the issues that matter most to me - life and Israel.
An inaccurate paraphrase of my statement.
As for the original statement, as I presentd it: res ipsa loquitur.
Are insults and accuzation the way you great all new users?
Such behavior appears, at least to me, to be nearly identical to behavior that movie Expelled with Ben Stein accuses the modern scientific community of.
So are you secretly a scientist?
And he’s illiterate and has gas. Come on — make up some more crap about Huckabee. He’s the devil, loves illegal drag racing, and has committed adultery. He shoplifts and has even killed a man.
I hpoe you feel better in the morning.
hpoe=hope
“No biologists in your list, except for Louis Pasteur who simply agreed with the majority of scientists in Europe and America.”
That’s probably because most biologists are not particularly bright. They memorize all sorts of things, but they have no clue about mathematics, hence they cannot see any evidence of design. Design is a mathematical concept, and basic mathematical literacy is required to identify it. Newton, Kelvin, and Pasteur had it. Most biologists apparently don’t.
Now that one is funny.
Yeah, the truth hurts doesn’t it.
In my world funny=/=painful.
There seems to be an epidemic of non-responsive posts tonight.
And I still think your post was funny.
True. And when the news was released that he had won the election, his Mother wept and lamented, “To think that he would stoop from being a Minister of the Gospel to being President.”
According to the Garfield biography on Wikipedia, after graduating from Williams College, "Garfield ruled out becoming a preacher". The rest of the biography doesn't seem to leave any time for his ordination.
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