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To: Sherman Logan
well, for starters:

1.frequently the ONLY thing that the union army freed the slaves from was BEING ALIVE. THOUSANDS of slaves in dixie were raped,assaulted,tortured & murdered by the invading union army. this was especially true if you happened to be a "comely, light-skinned, female slave" who was "available" to the invading yankee soldiers (generally NOTHING was done by the union high command to rapists/robbers/looters/murderers, IF the victim(s) were NON-white/poor/Jewish/"Chinese"/Latino/Roman Catholic/Quaker/"lower class"/uneducated/a slave.===> NOTE: my family had at least 92 members = mostly elderly men,women & children under the age of 10YO, as the able-bodied men/older boys were "away with the forces", robbed/raped/looted/assaulted/tortured/murdered just because they were NON-white/poor/available to the "filth in blue that flowed down from the north".),

2. MANY northern slavers sold their slaves (both in the north & in dixie) SOUTH to "the islands", rather than freeing them,

3. there are several documents from prominent "antislavery individuals" (who actually OWNED slaves), which clearly states that the owners had NO interest in freeing the slaves that THEY owned, but that they SAID that they planned to free those slaves, who were in SOUTHERN hands &

4. there is a letter from MG Benjamin (THE BEAST) Butler to Secretary Stanton that clearly states Butler's intent to use the "former bondsmen" for "volunteer, forced, labor under military discipline" (NICE OXYMORON, don't you think???) if such slaves came under the control of the union army until such time as "other arrangements could be made for their new owners", as Butler believeed that the "natural condition of the bondsman" was to BE a slave FOREVER. (the reply of Stanton to "the beast's plan of action" is UNKNOWN.)

fwiw, your question (unlike that of MOST of the unionists/DYs here at least shows a few signs of "brains".)

free dixie,sw

407 posted on 04/10/2008 11:29:00 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Ahh, but you are ignoring the issue.

You claimed that northerners planned to free southern slaves while keeping their own. When I pointed out that this was a truly ludicrous assertion, proving it with numbers and chronology, you promptly go off on a rant about northerners killing and pillaging. Even assuming these claims are 100% correct, they still do absolutely nothing to prove that DYs ever intended, much less tried to put into action, a freeing of southern slaves while retaining northern ones.

BTW, how hard do you think southern generals were on southern boys who had a little fun with a cute black wench?

To which “islands” are you referring? AFAIK, the only island retaining slavery after the US was Cuba, a rather restricted market. I assume you have documentation of the number of “northern slaves” sold to Cuba during the WBTS. You certainly wouldn’t toss out such an accusation without proof to back it up.

I’m interested. What were the circumstances that led to the massacre of your family members?


415 posted on 04/10/2008 5:03:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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