[cowboyway]

"After the "War for Southern Independence," to hold slaves...

States rights was the cause, slavery was the occasion.

If the South seceded tomorrow because the north insisted on universal health care, would you foolishly say that the South didn't want people to have health care?

[elfman2]

"States rights was the cause, slavery was the occasion.

States rights to enslave people was the cause and the occasion. It was the South's disgrace.

If the South seceded tomorrow because the north insisted on universal health care, would you foolishly say that the South didn't want people to have health care? "

If the South seceded tomorrow because the South insisted on universal health care, I would say that they seceded for universal health care and any other excuse was a transparent rationalization and propaganda to persuade fools to support it. I grew up in the south and my great grandfather fought for the South, presumably because of that nonsense. But it takes a special kind of stubborn denial and foolishness to believe in it after 150 years.