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Ancient Flying Reptiles Likely Had Sex As Youths
National Geographic News ^ | 3/12/2008 | John Roach

Posted on 03/13/2008 4:54:07 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: SunkenCiv

They didn’t have porch lights, either. And no Zippos to light the flare a few times...


21 posted on 03/13/2008 11:33:45 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Time is Nature's way of preventing everything from happening all at once.)
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To: Renfield
Ancient Flying Reptiles Likely Had Sex As Youths


22 posted on 03/13/2008 11:36:17 AM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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23 posted on 03/13/2008 11:38:45 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Lazmataz

twisttheknifeping


24 posted on 03/13/2008 11:40:47 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: Renfield

Hmm... So, did the pterosaurs merely mate early and retain the sperm for reproduction later in their adult life, or did they lay their eggs and do the whole shebang before full adulthood?

The reason is that either scenario presents different problems from an evolutionary standpoint. They should probably answer these questions before posing wacky theories like this.


25 posted on 03/13/2008 12:01:53 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Renfield; EarthBound

Paedosaurus?


26 posted on 03/13/2008 12:45:20 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: Renfield; SunkenCiv; blam

Pterosaurs had sex as youths? God, I hope so. The idea of OLD pterosaurs having a flying F-— brings to mind a horrible image.

(Note: will someone post the obligatory photoshopped image of Helen Thomas as a pterosaur?)


27 posted on 03/13/2008 3:43:22 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: coconutt2000

Well, my dog had to be neutered by 6 months, due to being sexually mature by then, but was not fully grown until age 4 (mastiff). The females are supposed to be 2 yo before they are bred, because they need to be more mature in order to breed safely.

Chickens lay eggs at 6 months, but I doubt they can be fertile, they’re just little pullet eggs.


28 posted on 03/13/2008 5:07:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’re right... It’s not clear at all (at least from this article) how they came to these conclusions about their sexual habits. I’m guessing (hoping?) there was more evidence that the reporter didn’t bother including either because they were lazy, or didn’t realize that it was an essential part of the explanation! LOL

The other thing that’s interesting is that if these animals had a life-span of only about 10 years, that would kind of “knock out” the theory that they were still “youths” at the time of sexual maturity. Compared to humans, yeah of course, but for animals? Ridiculous...


29 posted on 03/13/2008 5:45:46 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog has a new home -- http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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If any scientist can be so precise with regard to the sex habits of an animal that supposedly (but I don’t believe it) died millions of years ago, then think of the ramifications on things like criminal investigation, espionage and electronic or other scientific surveillance of the populace.

The day they can be so precise about the sex habits of an animal millions of years ago, they will know your sex habits of the past 24 hours, in your bedroom. These conjectures lead me to deeper UNBELIEF in the sanity of modern Darwinian science.

30 posted on 03/13/2008 6:32:03 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Judith Anne

The problem with this wacky theory is it de-emphasizes full adulthood for the species, and survivability to old age is no longer an evolutionary plus. Essentially, this type of reproductive model would result in inevitable alteration of the species over a short period of time due to reproductive pressures, with an emphasis on mutations that expand or enhance the reproductive advantages of its youth. Features prominent in full grown adults such as size would become vestigial.

The only explanation for such over specialization that I can see is that the species had a complex social system where the full grown adults enhanced the reproductive advantages of the younger individuals by caring for, protecting, and feeding their offspring’s offspring and/or genetic descendants. But the gist is that the reproductive period would naturally increase over time as those who remain capable of passing on their genes the longest are more likely to have more offspring. Such changes in physiology over time would have other effects on the species later development.

I guess what I’m saying is that such a reproductive model is inherently unstable and any species which has such a model would either become extinct due to overspecialization or will become a candidate for inevitable and rapid evolutionary change... resulting in extinction for the originals.


31 posted on 03/14/2008 2:52:47 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

Your comment makes sense to me. Thanks.


32 posted on 03/14/2008 3:16:33 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: evets

That photo is fake, right???


33 posted on 03/14/2008 3:18:10 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: evets

LOL!


34 posted on 03/14/2008 3:42:51 PM PDT by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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