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North American Union becomes litmus test for political hypocrisy among Presidential candidates
The Canadian ^ | 10. Feb 2008 | Peter Tremblay

Posted on 02/10/2008 10:56:24 AM PST by radar101

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1 posted on 02/10/2008 10:56:26 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101
"The (communist, defeatist, fellow-traveller) Canadian does not speak for this Canadian.
2 posted on 02/10/2008 10:59:48 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: radar101

Something to think about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo


3 posted on 02/10/2008 11:44:44 AM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
""The (communist, defeatist, fellow-traveller) Canadian does not speak for this Canadian."

Why? You think the NAU is a good idea?

4 posted on 02/10/2008 12:00:36 PM PST by penowa
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To: Professional Engineer

end of the world ping


5 posted on 02/10/2008 12:01:38 PM PST by Peanut Gallery ("An armed society is a polite society.")
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To: penowa

>>”McCain has a much more conservative records, better foreign policy and military experience and believes in science.”


Three blatant lies, so of course it’s good enough for you. The man is excrement.<<

Not speaking for him but I think the NAU is a conspiracy theory that distracts from real concerns like border security, immigration and the loss of the right of Americans to freely travel and leave the country.


6 posted on 02/10/2008 12:05:57 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: nicmarlo; processing please hold; WorkerbeeCitizen; Greg F; Borax Queen; Man50D; Zon; ...

pinging the troops!

Anti-globalist ping...


7 posted on 02/10/2008 12:06:35 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: penowa

Do you take anything printed in such a publication at face value?


8 posted on 02/10/2008 12:11:25 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: gondramB

Border security and rights to travel are but a couple facets of the SPP/NAU. Where you been?


9 posted on 02/10/2008 12:29:04 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: gondramB

Secondly, I’d drop the CT title. We have members of Congress who would disagree.


10 posted on 02/10/2008 12:31:11 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: wolfcreek

>>Border security and rights to travel are but a couple facets of the SPP/NAU. Where you been?<<

That was actually my point - by laying a wild conspiracy over the top of very real concerns, it doesn’t increase the chance of those real concerns getting dealt with. It hurts the chances.


11 posted on 02/10/2008 12:31:36 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB
Where do you draw the line? Where does the *wildness* preclude reality or visa-versa?
12 posted on 02/10/2008 12:35:01 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The guy is obviously a lefty loon that wrote it from the language he used, but you need to understand that the elite who control the Democrat party in this country have now got their bought and paid for Republican candidate in McCain. The election next Nov. will be between Soros and Soros. The coming non-election is a fraud and the citizens of the U.S. have been sold out while they slept and were busy being distracted by a battle of right vs. left while our sovereignty was snatched by both parties.


13 posted on 02/10/2008 12:35:44 PM PST by penowa
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>>Where do you draw the line? Where does the *wildness* preclude reality or visa-versa?<<

The line comes with sustantial evidence. I’ve read the source materials from the CFR and I have found the summaries of these by the people claiming a NAU conspiracy to be faked.

I can’t find anybody in the U.S. in favor of ending sovereignty but I see very real restrictions on free movements of citizens and lax border security.

So I see a need to concentrate on what is supported by evidence and I find the main effect of the conspiracy stuff is to distract.


14 posted on 02/10/2008 12:38:48 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB

McCain is the tool of Soros, Lewis and Theresa Heinz, etc. Perhaps he was once conservative, but that was before he sold out to carry the water for them post 2000. All you have to do is google Soros McCain, or McCain’s Reform Institute to get some info on what he’s been up to the last 8 yrs.


15 posted on 02/10/2008 12:41:18 PM PST by penowa
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To: radar101

Tin-foil hat time. Of all the one-issue issues this ranks below the fold.


16 posted on 02/10/2008 12:43:20 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: gondramB
IMO, it’s the secrecy of organizations like CFR that create such undertones. How does one know their fabrication of a truth is not another lie or deception? How do we know they don’t plant stories to distort reality? Fix elections? Destroy people’s lives?

IMO, the Elitists at CFR make most decisions on world and economic policy. They select the leaders (McCain/Clinton for example) to carry out their agenda. They control vast amounts of wealth and power. Imo, in order to achieve their One-World, they must disarm the citizenry.

If you haven’t noticed, these are all front burner issues in the present day. Seeing through the deceit is of utmost importance.

17 posted on 02/10/2008 1:02:13 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: penowa
The anti-globilist crowd said the same things about the Canada-US FTA, and the North American FTA. Both of these agreements have created a great deal of wealth for the member nations — at no loss of sovereignty. I am very, very familiar with the contents of the CFTA and NAFTA, as well as most of the background documents — and am all to familiar with the distortions and downright fabrications of the opponents (mostly narrow vested-interest groups out to protect their previously privileged positions at the expense of the general public). By comparison, I don’t know much about the so-called NAU — but, based on past experience, I’m unwilling to lend the opponents any credence.
18 posted on 02/10/2008 1:31:32 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fanfan
Interesting what the Canucks on the Left come up with . . . look at this, they haven't gotten past the death of John Lennon:

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.” – John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman
Twilight of the Psychopaths, The Canadian

I didn't read Canadian Perspective: Research suggests fluoride is being used in used as a mind-control agent to dumb-down the masses, though it sounds interesting.

19 posted on 02/10/2008 2:00:06 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ovrtaxt; processing please hold; yorkie; All
The SPP-NAU, is an effort by the U.S. Bush administration to ensure that whatever is the outcome of the U.S. Presidential election, their clique will rule "North America", toward aspirations of neo-fascist authoritarian Global dominance. SPP-NAU represents the creation of a North American "national security state" under One Party Rule, that will make the Office of the President, along with Congressional representatives, ceremonial positions, like Queen and the Royal Palace in the United Kingdom.

Perhaps people don't like using the word "fascist." Then substitute it with something that makes them feel better. How about no representation and a shredded Constitution?

Excerpts posted below from my home page. For the doubting Thomas' please feel free to obtain more information on my home page and/or at any of the links contained therein or below:

The Council on Foreign Relations is pushing for a North American Union.

Building a North American Community [pdf file]
May 2005 | Robert Pastor
Member of the Council on Foreign Relations
Excerpts:

• Our economic focus should be on the creation of a common economic space that expands economic opportunities for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely.

• The strategy needs to be integrated in its approach, recognizing the extent to which progress on each individual component enhances achievement of the others. Progress on security, for example, will allow a more open border for the movement of goods and people; progress on regulatory matters will reduce the need for active customs administration and release resources to boost security. North American solutions could ultimately serve as the basis for initiatives involving other like-minded countries, either in our hemisphere or more broadly. [p. 7]

WHAT WE SHOULD DO NOW

• Establish a common security perimeter by 2010. The governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States should articulate as their long-term goal a common security perimeter for North America. In particular, the three governments should strive toward a situation in which a terrorist trying to penetrate our borders will have an equally hard time doing so, no matter which country he elects to enter first. We believe that these measures should be extended to include a commitment to common approaches toward international negotiations on the global movement of people, cargo, and vessels. Like free trade a decade ago, a common security perimeter for North America is an ambitious but achievable goal that will require specific policy, statutory, and procedural changes in all three nations.

• Develop a North American Border Pass. The three countries should develop a secure North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers. This document would allow its bearers expedited passage through customs, immigration, and airport security throughout the region. The program would be modeled on the U.S.-Canadian "NEXUS" and the U.S.-Mexican "SENTRI" programs, which provide "smart cards" to allow swifter passage to those who pose no risk. Only those who voluntarily seek, receive, and pay the costs for a security clearance would obtain a Border Pass. The pass would be accepted at all border points within North America as a complement to, but not a replacement for, national identity documents or passports.

• Develop a unified North American border action plan. The closing of the borders following the 9/11 attacks awakened all three governments to the need for rethinking management of the borders. Intense negotiations produced the bilateral ‘‘Smart Borders’’ agreements. Although the two borders are different and may in certain instances require policies that need to be implemented at two speeds, cooperation by the three governments in the following areas would lead to a better result than a "dual-bilateral" approach: [pp. 30-31]

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

--David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

David Rockefeller - Memoirs, Random House, 2002, page 405.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries"

David Rockefeller in an address to a
Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991.

Cheney Laughs At Lying about CFR Directorship,
after taking a question from David Rockefeller [youtube]
(at ~ 1:38 into 1:54 min. video).

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, our other regional partner, an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as the future prosperity of North America, and the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons."

-- Vincente Fox, then President of Mexico

May 16, 2002 | Before the members of the "Club Century XXI" in the Hall Conferences of the Eurobuilding Hotel, Madrid, Spain
[full text: Spanish | English]

VIDEO (3:12 min.): Lou Dobbs | North American Union by 2010

SPP Summit Scheduled in Canada, Summer 2007
U.S. Taxpayers May End up Footing the Bill

Through the Freedom of Information Act, Judicial Watch recently obtained a 10-page document, "a financial work plan that describes how U.S. taxpayers would fund grants to Mexico. The work plan states:

'...the establishment of a grant fund for development with U.S. and Canadian resources to finance the development of physical infrastructure in Mexico.'

Canadian funds would also be committed to the project. Judicial Watch is calling for complete disclosure...."


20 posted on 02/10/2008 2:08:55 PM PST by nicmarlo
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