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Microsoft Junks and Replaces Vista Kernel in SP1
APCmag ^ | February 5th | James Bannan

Posted on 02/09/2008 3:22:20 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

One of the “big” features discussed in early speculation of Windows Vista SP1 was the kernel upgrade, which was supposed to bring the operating system into line with the Longhorn kernel used in Windows Server 2008. And yet with Vista SP1 going RTM, there hasn't been so much as a peep from Microsoft about the mooted kernel update. Has it happened?

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; vista; windows
Here's today's incremental upgrade.
1 posted on 02/09/2008 3:22:21 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What’s an RTM? Something ready to market? Thanks ..


2 posted on 02/09/2008 4:04:30 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Bump for later.


3 posted on 02/09/2008 4:16:32 AM PST by bcsco (Tag space for rent: "aPaulogists" need not apply.)
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To: Ken522

I think it means ‘release to manufacturing’

Ready to market, right to market is pretty close though.


4 posted on 02/09/2008 4:52:42 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Juan Hernandez = Mexico First, therefore McCain = Mexico First. There's no way I can vote McCain.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Are people actually using Vista?


5 posted on 02/09/2008 6:44:36 AM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TommyDale

LOL


6 posted on 02/09/2008 8:03:26 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Juan Hernandez = Mexico First, therefore McCain = Mexico First. There's no way I can vote McCain.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The version and build information of Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008 (RTM) are exactly the same as each other.

That's big news. Hopefully it will improve Vista. Not that I'm going to be buying it. But it's still a big deal.

7 posted on 02/09/2008 1:36:10 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; ShadowAce
Another article on this:

Will Server 2008's Rising Tide Raise Vista's Boat?
By Kevin McLaughlin, CMP Channel
4:05 PM EST Fri. Feb. 08, 2008

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It's common knowledge in the Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) channel that many of the core files in Windows Server 2008 and Vista are identical. But some Microsoft partners, who believe the impact of the shared code base has been somewhat underestimated, insist that the symbiotic relationship between the two products will facilitate network deployments for several years to come.

"Server 2008 will bring to life functions and features of Vista that have been hidden somewhat in 2003 environments," says Todd Swank, director of marketing for system builder and solution provider Nor-Tech, Burnsville, Minn. "And that's when a lot of businesses are going to begin making the transition."

For example, Vista SP1 will help reduce the blood pressure of Vista users by cutting down the number of alerts generated by User Account Control, the much maligned security measure that was introduced with the OS, Swank added. "Microsoft tweaked the intelligence around the UAC warnings in SP1, and the number of alerts has been dramatically reduced," he said.

With the 'RTM' of Vista SP1 earlier this week, speculation flared that the kernel in SP1 had undergone a significant redesign, and that Microsoft, as it has been known to do from time to time, was keeping this information under wraps so as not to raise the specter of interoperability problems.

But according to Microsoft, while the kernel, core OS files, networking stack, and file sharing are common to both Windows Server 2008 and Vista SP1, and changes have been made in the RTM of each product to pave the way for future servicing and management, these changes don't amount to a kernel re-design.

"While many of these files have been updated for Server scenarios, most of these changes do not change the features or functionality of Windows Vista, but they are included in the service pack," a Microsoft spokesperson said in an email to ChannelWeb.

Tom DeRosier, co-owner of CPU Guys, a system builder in Hanson, Mass., says the shared code base between Server 2008 and Vista SP1 sets Microsoft up for at least the next decade, because it solves common problems with configuring network devices that for years have caused migraines for administrators.

"The tie-in is a great thing, because it means all these machines will be able to set themselves up on networks much more easily," DeRosier said. "That means phones, PDAs, laptops, desktops, and Media Centers, will all be easier to work with. Imagine going out and buying a device, come home and turning it on, and server will discover it and set everything up for you -- names, permissions, right down to user access privileges."

8 posted on 02/10/2008 9:38:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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9 posted on 02/10/2008 4:48:55 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: TommyDale

One cannot use vista, one can only attempt to use vista.


10 posted on 02/10/2008 5:10:44 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ShadowAce
My first post from a Linux OS!
11 posted on 02/10/2008 6:18:06 PM PST by militem (When the GOP loses conservatism, the GOP loses.)
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To: Ken522; Halfmanhalfamazing
Yes, it is "release to manufacturing."

It will be the version that goes to customers unless a really major problem is found. Manufacturing has it, however, so they're off making CD masters, etc., which will also have to be regression-tested and compared with what the regular testers have found. Byte-for-byte comparisons will also be made with a "golden master". During this time of a few days-to-two weeks time, bugs will continue to be found. They'll just have to be fixed some other way, in the next iteration, hopefully.

If a major problem is found, it presumably must be fixed. Other fixes accomplished in the meantime may get incorporated (or not, depending on their volatility and how thoroughly the recent fixes have gotten tested without finding side-effects), and managers may determine that they may have to drop back to a new release candidate, then a new golden master, followed by a new release to manaufacturing.

It's been a while since I was doing it, but that's roughly the way it was handled a dozen years ago (if this crusty memory still serves).

HF

12 posted on 02/10/2008 6:28:12 PM PST by holden
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To: militem

Great! Which distro is it?


13 posted on 02/10/2008 8:22:01 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Ubuntu Gutsy. Which one do you use?


14 posted on 02/10/2008 8:24:05 PM PST by militem (When the GOP loses conservatism, the GOP loses.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Vister Schmister, no tanks


15 posted on 02/11/2008 3:35:42 AM PST by webschooner
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To: militem

I run Fedora 8. Been using Red Hat producxts since about 1994 or so.


16 posted on 02/11/2008 4:52:20 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: militem

LOL! Is that your hallelujah post?

Welcome to the linux crowd! :-)


17 posted on 02/11/2008 4:50:52 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Juan Hernandez = Mexico First, therefore McCain = Mexico First. There's no way I can vote McCain.)
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To: militem
"My first post from a Linux OS!"

I could tell before even reading it. Something just seemed to set it apart from the Windows posts.

18 posted on 02/24/2008 7:01:02 AM PST by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: KoRn

LOL!! Some how you sensed the frustration of it taking me 3 days to get my wireless working.


19 posted on 02/24/2008 8:53:14 AM PST by militem (When the GOP loses conservatism, the GOP loses.)
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