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Message to the FRiberal RINOs: McCain is YOUR Fault!
Wagglebee | 2/7/08 | Wagglebee

Posted on 02/07/2008 4:18:27 PM PST by wagglebee

To all of you FRiberals out there, and that means all of you Rooty Rooters and Romneyites, it's your fault that the GOP is almost for certain stuck with McCain as the nominee. Now, I don't mean those of you who voted for Romney on Super Tuesday in an effort to split the vote, but the rest of you are culpable.

Conservative FReepers have spent the past year listening to the likes of you tell us that conservatives have "had their foot on the neck" of the GOP for too long. We were told that all that mattered was someone who was strong on terror. We were told that we needed someone with strong name recognition. We were told that generally the GOP decides whose "turn it is" and then nominates that person. We were told that we needed someone who can get independent votes. We were told that ANY Republican would nominate strict constructionists to the Federal bench. We were told that winning was all that mattered.

Now, some of you who said this were supporting Rooty, some of you were supporting Romney. But you were all pretty much saying the same thing: you preferred your candidates to a conservative. Some of you even got so upset with conservative FReepers that you ran away to start a RINO forum

Well, guess what? You were successful, though not in the way you thought you would be. It looks like it's McCain's "turn." But don't worry, McCain is a war hero and strong on terrorism (as long as we don't actually take terrorists into custody or try to keep them from crossing into the United States through open borders), he says he can get independents to vote for him, he says he will appoint constructionists, and most important, he has name recognition.

So, if your real agenda was to destroy the GOP, you very well may have succeeded. If your agenda was to create a "Democrat Light" party, you have almost certainly succeeded. If your agenda was to keep the Democrats out of the White House, you have probably failed.

But regardless of what your agenda was, you have harmed the United States of America -- I just hope it's not permanent.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; election2008; elections; mccain; rinos
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To: wagglebee
I'm really not whining here. I'm telling the FRiberals not to whine, they wanted a RINO and that's what they got.

No... that's whining. Really. :-)

FR is a tiny, tiny portion of the conservative base, which is in turn a small portion of the voting population. Out there in the real world, people voted. That's how it works. They may be misinformed... but the truth is that even votes by misinformed people count. Just like all the others.

41 posted on 02/07/2008 4:54:43 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Oops. goobered my italians there...


42 posted on 02/07/2008 4:55:33 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: wagglebee

I imagine most’ll be clearing out of here soon. They did their damage and can go join the DU crowd they share so much with.


43 posted on 02/07/2008 4:56:09 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Ramius

Well, there are plenty of people here who claim to be conservatives, and they have done a tremendous disservice to conservatism.


44 posted on 02/07/2008 4:57:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Good riddance! They can go be DUmmies, WAnkers or whatever the hell else they’d like, but no good can come from having them around here polluting a conservative forum.


46 posted on 02/07/2008 4:59:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: indcons
BTTT

I would add, to all the Romneyites, who defended his liberalism, claimed only he was “electable”, etc etc etc.

How is that electability looking now? When we promoted Hunter, a true conservative you laughed. When the RNC and the lame media effectively took him out, you didn’t care, you said he was unelectable. When the RNC and the lame media took Thompson out, you didn’t care, he wasn’t electable, had no fire in the belly, etc etc. Now that they have succeeded in taking Romney out (we told you right along he couldn’t carry the south!), there is no Conservatives left to come to your aid. Guess maybe you should have insisted, along with those candidates who remain, that all get the exposure they deserve, not just the few the media and the RNC want to give face time too. Perhaps if you had, we would have a Conservative in the race now.

McCain is now your man, hope you enjoy the ride.

47 posted on 02/07/2008 4:59:19 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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To: bill1952

Isn’t the gov of Arizona a democrat? Not that a dem replacement would be any different than having McCain. But does Arizona choose a senatorial replacement by special election or does the dem governor get to choose who would serve out McCain’s term?


48 posted on 02/07/2008 5:00:05 PM PST by Waryone
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To: Donnaplume

Newt is a bit too in love with Hillary and global warming for me.


49 posted on 02/07/2008 5:01:56 PM PST by Waryone
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To: bill1952

And I share that aim, bill.


50 posted on 02/07/2008 5:02:01 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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To: gidget7; indcons
McCain is now your man, hope you enjoy the ride.

Yep, that was my point in this vanity. They've spent the past year promoting RINOism, it's not OUR fault that they wound up with the wrong RINO.

51 posted on 02/07/2008 5:02:01 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

not sure what any ONE of us could have done.

is there any one all-powerful person you are referencing here at FR??


52 posted on 02/07/2008 5:03:51 PM PST by zwerni (it's the end of the world as we know it...)
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To: wagglebee; greyfoxx39; Petronski; fieldmarshaldj

And might I add: to all the Freepers who had their good names dragged through the mud being called bigots, losers, sons of perdition etc., thank you for sticking to your conservative convictions in opposing liberalism and RINOism. The Romney, McCain, and Rooty trolls should all be ashamed of their behavior on this forum for the last year. The divisiveness they caused is unprecedented and should never be forgotten.


53 posted on 02/07/2008 5:04:32 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: wagglebee
As a Conservative FReeper... I blame Conservatives. Some were and still are Duncan Hunter die-hards, others were and still are Fred Thompson die-hards, some conservatives stood behind Romney while others refused to even think about voting for him. If Romney won then other conservatives were going to write in their candidate’s name even though theirs dropped out long ago. Sorry but the division between conservative republicans and country-clubbers was not what gave McCain his victory it was the division among the conservatives. I kept an open mind. I preferred Fred Thompson but he proved to be a bad campaigner. I would have voted for Hunter, but he didn't do so well either. As much as I would like to, I don't blame McCain supporters for their success. That’s what a liberal would do. I congratulate them. I will not, however, be voting for McCain. I refuse to vote for a liberal. I don't blame the winners like a democrat would do. I blame the losers.
54 posted on 02/07/2008 5:05:49 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://youtube.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: cripplecreek

“Now we don’t have any of those things and I would like to remind people that senators don’t have a great record of winning the white house either.”

And the two that won the white house, didn’t SURVIVE the white house.


55 posted on 02/07/2008 5:07:43 PM PST by Bull Market (I will not vote for John McCain.)
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To: big'ol_freeper; greyfoxx39; Petronski; fieldmarshaldj
The Romney, McCain, and Rooty trolls should all be ashamed of their behavior on this forum for the last year. The divisiveness they caused is unprecedented and should never be forgotten.

Exactly! And they are now being shown the "law of unintended consequences" in the worst possible way.

56 posted on 02/07/2008 5:08:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Fox may have made a mistake with the caption under their coverage of McCain today. Or maybe they were just trying to be fair and balanced...
 
 
 
 

57 posted on 02/07/2008 5:08:51 PM PST by Delacon (Don't Immanentize the Eschaton.)
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To: wagglebee

A message to idiots: You don’t *own* anyone else’s vote.


58 posted on 02/07/2008 5:09:35 PM PST by bvw
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I also have no idea what happened with John.

Back in 04, I was looking at McCain for 08 and then the roof just plain fell in.

All of this could not have just happened all at once, the way that it appeared to have happened.
It must have been festering under the radar and out of plain sight.
Christ, in the space of a couple of years he went Kucinich on us.

vote for this??

59 posted on 02/07/2008 5:10:27 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Delacon

Some days he’s an “R,” most days he’s a “D” and EVERY DAY he’s a lunatic.


60 posted on 02/07/2008 5:10:28 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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