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To: 2harddrive

OK, but what I don’t understand is if this is the case, why doesn’t Congress just fix that problem and just close the loophole?


12 posted on 02/01/2008 2:19:13 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: ECM

Because that would mean that all other taxes paid fom 1913 to date were paid to a government wothout the authority to collect them! Federal tax fraud on the RECEIVING end!


16 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:51 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: ECM

If you do a little research on this subject, unlike most of the f&^%*ing maroons here who think they know so much about the law but couldn’t find it in a law library, you will find that according to the Constitution, Congress has NO AUTHORITY to levy a tax on income- look up the difference between ‘direct’ and ‘indirect’ taxes and ‘excise’. It hasn’t been passed because it would be (hopefully) overturned by the SC as un-Constitutional, because it is.

It is much easier for the IRS to *claim* that there is a law, buried in all those hundreds or thousands of IRS regulations in the IRS manual [which are *not* laws but regulations], and work by using the fear of jack booted thugs and the fear of being taken to “tax court” [a kangaroo court if there ever was one] to extract the taxes from you. It’s worked for the better part of 50+ years hasn’t it? Just look at this or other tax or Snipes threads and see how many supposedly freedom loving, knowledgable, conservative FReepers are against Snipes on this subject, without any first hand knowledge of the actual laws or statutes. It’s very telling as to how much fear and trepidation the IRS instills in even conservative FReepers on this subject.

I’m sure I’ll get flamed on this subject by those same know-it-all FReepers, but that still doesn’t alter the fact that they cannot come up with a cite of the **actual law** that in fact does levy an income tax on earnings of U.S. Citizens. The IRS can’t, the courts can’t, the prosecutors can’t- because it doesn’t exist. So Snipes may have more going for him and his argument than he’s given credit for.

For the record, I’m not a tax protester. I don’t want the tax laws changed or a “Fair Tax” instituted. At this point, there is NO LAW levying an income tax or requiring that it be paid or reported. So I don’t want an un-Constitutional law creating an income tax passed.

I’ve donned my nomex suit and await the ad hominem attacks, but will disregard all of them if they can’t cite a law in the USC that backs up their arguments.

Have at it.


31 posted on 02/01/2008 3:39:47 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: ECM
"close the loophole?"

I'd rather see them just "close" the IRS, but that will never happen....

34 posted on 02/01/2008 4:33:13 PM PST by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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