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To: dsc

Actually, you have demonstrated nothing but your willingness to take things out of context and claim victory.

What I actually said, was “...it was only in the 4th century after the Virgin Birth,...that God became officially recognized as Tri-partite.” Factually, the doctrine was adopted at the Ecumenical Council of 381.

One would think that God would have stepped in earlier to give Divine guidance on such an important doctrine, but the word ‘Trinity’ never appears in any of the Scriptures.

Arguments for the concept of the Trinity before were made by individual theologians who tried to reconcile the Jewish monotheistic God with the idea of Jesus and the Holy Spirit as divine on the same level as Jehovah.

See Doctrine of the Trinity http://www.inu.net/skeptic/trinity.html

As far as I know, these theologians never claimed they were in direct communication with a Trinitarian God on the subject.


71 posted on 01/27/2008 5:07:10 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

“Actually, you have demonstrated nothing but your willingness to take things out of context and claim victory…Factually, the doctrine was adopted at the Ecumenical Council of 381.”

Actually, I was giving you too much credit. You cited a fourth century date as though the codification of the doctrine at that Council showed that it was newly invented at that time. If that wasn’t what you meant, then you had no point. By claiming that earlier references to the Trinity are outside the scope of your remark, you have pettifogged your point right out of significance.

“One would think that God would have stepped in earlier to give Divine guidance on such an important doctrine”

As, indeed, He did.

“but the word ‘Trinity’ never appears in any of the Scriptures.”

The Scriptures are one means of Revelation, but not the only one. Besides, there is certainly nothing wrong with developing a shared vocabulary with which to communicate on the subject of Revelation. The fact that the word does not appear in the Bible is utterly without significance.

“Arguments for the concept of the Trinity before were made by individual theologians who tried to reconcile the Jewish monotheistic God with the idea of Jesus and the Holy Spirit as divine on the same level as Jehovah. See Doctrine of the Trinity http://www.inu.net/skeptic/trinity.html”;

Once again you choose to believe falsehoods. What a hash of nonsense and irrelevancies that article is. How can you find such trash to be intellectually satisfying?

From the Scriptures we know this much: Jesus is God, God the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. You remember the Holy Spirit, surely. We meet Him in the Scriptures, too. The nature of the Trinity is beyond human comprehension (See “Flatland”), but God has revealed that He is one God in three Persons.

“As far as I know, these theologians never claimed they were in direct communication with a Trinitarian God on the subject.”

Not “as far as you know.” That’s inaccurate. You have been told that some theologians, holy men, doctors of the Church, etc. have had the guidance of the Holy Spirit, but you choose to reject that. And not on any factual basis, either. You have been given the opportunity to know, but have rejected it in favor of the serpent’s promise to Eve.


72 posted on 01/27/2008 8:16:41 PM PST by dsc
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