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To: Polybius
We can hardly relate or explain the complexities of this subject, learned in 20+ years of Catholic and Jesuit education in a few paragraphs "shouted" across cyberspace. I think we agree more than we differ.

Sublimus Dei is a papal bull promulgated by Pope Paul III on May 29, 1537, which forbids the enslavement of the indigenous peoples of the Americas and all other people. The pope used in the bull almost the same language as in his letter, Veritas ipsa, to Cardinal Juan de Tavera, Archbishop of Toledo, sent less than a month earlier on May 2, 1537. In these, Paul III unequivocally declares in his language declaring Indians to have souls and be included in those God had endowed with capacity to attain to the inaccessible and invisible Supreme Good and behold it face to face. Thus the indigenous peoples of the Americas were rational beings with souls, denouncing any idea to the contrary as directly inspired by the "enemy of the human race" (Satan). He goes on to condemn their reduction to slavery in the strongest terms, declaring it null and void for as well as for any people known or that could be discovered in the future, entitles their right to liberty and property, and concludes with a call for their evangelization.

63 posted on 01/26/2008 11:13:45 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

“It would probably take far more study than you appear willing to invest to discover or deduce…We can hardly relate or explain the complexities of this subject, learned in 20+ years of Catholic and Jesuit education in a few paragraphs”

Thanks for the lesson in supercilious arrogance, ass.

It was a Jew, Isaac Asimov, who commented that anyone who couldn’t explain what he was doing to an eight-year-old, was a charlatan. I think that goes for us Catholics as well.

In any case, it looks to me like Polybius has a better grasp of the subject.


64 posted on 01/26/2008 6:32:29 PM PST by dsc
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