Posted on 01/18/2008 11:23:43 AM PST by Postal Dude
i suggest that you look at jonah goldberg’s new book:
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
Case closed.
The socialists in UK push for the abortion of children who might have Downs Syndrome, cleft palates and club feet.
Margaret Sanger, the “Mother” of Planned Parenthood, expressed her intention of wiping out “The Negro Race.” This was during the 1930s.
Case reopened due to a preponderance of evidence.
Exactly
Rosie O'Donnel, Michael Moore and Sean Penn are Socialists. They don't want the regular guy to have guns. However Rosie and Michael want their body guards to be armed. Sean Penn has his own guns.
He wanted German women to BREED like animals! Of course, he wanted FORCED abortion to all SUBHUMANS!
Again; Margaret Sanger's expressed goal was to make blacks extinct. Most Planned Parenthood clinics are in the minority sections of cities. Additionally; socialists are trying to coerce mothers to abort based on possible birth defects (in many cases the child is normal). It sounds like their trying to "create a perfect race."
Are you series? That's hugh!
Wow. Now that he said thinking the Nazis were socialists is idiotic he’s got me convinced.
When TahRAYsuh Heinz Kerry said anyone who didn’t like John (he was in Vietnam) Kerry’s health plan was an idiot I was convinced too.
I’m convinced that Postal Dude is a troll. And I bet he’s almost as smart as TahRAYsuh.
He is zotbait for sure.
;-)
The common ground was that, bottom line, the Party told you what to do, and nobody really cared who was 'right" or "left." That was for the effete Frenchmen to worry about, over their absinthe.
He’s also gone strangely silent. It seems that the moment the argument was wretched from the emotional spectrum to facts and real data he scuttled into a crack in the linoleum.
Too bad they banned DDT. It works great on roaches.
How long would it take before State Medical care was denied to, say, smokers? Pick another 'expensive' group to go next--the "obese" perhaps,or the elderly?
Control of critical resources and the allocation thereof has always been the easiest way to eliminate entire populations. Starvation is among the most notable weapons of mass destruction.
Given a chance, the liberals would control your health care access, your diet, where you live or the resources available (Google: Agenda 21), your energy consumption, etc.
In some areas, their idea of what is suitable for you to have could easliy amount to a death sentence.
That's their propaganda excuse. Many of the useful idiots may believe guns are "evil", but the leaders know that an armed populace would prevent them from achieving their goals.
So while not socialist in the strict sense, their economic policies were socialistic.
Pournelle’s chart is accurate with regard to attitudes towards the state.
Without commentary from him it’s hard to tell if he understood that the attitude towards Reason is theoretical, not actual.
Commies claimed that their system was scientific and rational, but of course it wasn’t, as science by definition doesn’t kill anybody who disagrees. The scientific method requires disagreement and challenge to function.
Fascists and Nazis, OTOH, were vocal about their disdain for science and reason, proclaiming the superiority of blood, soil, nation and race over science and reason. But they were just as anxious as anybody else to use the fruits of science and reason, and in the case of the Nazis were quite good at it.
To have an even vaguely intelligent discussion about this subject you need to decide what period you are going to discuss. While the Left certainly stands for all these things today, it hasn't for most of its history.
IMHO, the most fruitful period for discussion of the Socialist/Fascist connection is the 20s, which is the period when both groups first gained political power.
The Socialists and Progressives were quite different from those of today. Of the list above they generally supported Internationality, Multiculturalism and Pacifism.
But they generally opposed:
Racial Equality. The 20s were the heyday of the color bar. It was generally accepted that science had proven that humans came in unequal species. In South Africa the Socialists fought for the rights of white miners against the evil Jewish mine owners who wanted to hire blacks.
Equal Rights for Homosexuals. Not a popular cause anywhere, so far as I can tell, before at earliest the 70s. AAMOF, the pre-1933 Nazi party, and most especially the SA, were dominated by ardent butch homos. Much like the Spartans, they considered homosexuality more masculine than messing about with women.
Abortion. Many Progressives supported abortion for the inferior races while opposing it for the superior ones, which was very much the Nazi approach.
There are a few articles on FR describing a plan in California for the state to control the thermostat (and therefore the heating and air conditioning) of private residences.
They were and are socialists.
The gun control the pushed was pure socialism. Their ecconomics and social policy were socialist.
Read the “pink swastika”
YES, they were!
Homosexuals do the same thing. The NAZIs were full of homosexuals. Roehlm famously so.
next.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.