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Police examining items for signs tiger was taunted
CNN ^ | 1/3/2008 | CNN

Posted on 01/03/2008 6:12:02 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

SAN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) -- Police are investigating whether several items found in the enclosure of a tiger who fatally mauled a 17-year-old man show that the animal was attacked or taunted, San Francisco Zoo spokesman Sam Singer said Wednesday.

Police are examining a large rock, a tree branch and other items, Singer said.

"They [police] are trying to make a determination that those items or any other things that happened on Christmas Day were part of some attack on the tiger or something that angered Tatiana, causing her to come out of her cage," the spokesman said.

San Francisco Police Chief Heather Fong has said that a shoe print found on the railing at the tiger enclosure is being examined to determine if one of the victims climbed over the rail or threw their leg over the side.

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To: Scotsman will be Free

Re: Police chiefs of most agencies are APPOINTED by the mayor, county exec, governor. They serve at the pleasure of that appointing authority, and are usually political whores.

That is true in many instances in life, including many BOD’s.

Re: Stating a fact isn’t racist, it’s a fact.

You haven’t proven it is a fact, hence to me, it appears racist.

Re: Take your ignorant, sanctimonious, rino, gutless attitude and put it where the sun doesn’t shine.

When civil discourse doesn’t seem to work, turn to ad hominem attacks.

A class act you are not.


261 posted on 01/04/2008 5:49:32 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Calling me a racist is “civil discourse” you swine? Pound sand you gutless wonder.


262 posted on 01/04/2008 5:57:52 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

More ad hominem.

I really expect nothing more from you at this point.


263 posted on 01/04/2008 6:55:31 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: poinq

Not only do the sling shots not matter, they do not exist.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1948192/posts

Excellent post, btw.


264 posted on 01/04/2008 7:01:05 AM PST by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Scotsman will be Free
More ad hominem.
I really expect nothing more from you at this point.


That's what you should be hoping for. The Scotsman cleaned your clock.

Looks good on you. :)
265 posted on 01/04/2008 7:14:01 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: mkjessup

Another poster entirely bereft of any class.

Two peas in a pod!


266 posted on 01/04/2008 7:17:43 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Scotsman will be Free

I got your ‘pod’ right here fella.

You wouldn’t know class if it showed up at your damn front door with a sticker on it’s lapel that said “Hello - My Name is Class”.

Get a life ya loser.


267 posted on 01/04/2008 7:19:28 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: mkjessup

Still MORE ad hominem!

Nothing more needs to be said by me.


268 posted on 01/04/2008 7:20:42 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Scotsman will be Free

C’mon, don’t disappint us now, you live to point out how we lesser mortals suck compared to your morally superior self!


269 posted on 01/04/2008 7:23:24 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: nmh

I think my meaning must not have been clear.

The wall will be built higher, now.

It worked for 60 years until these hoodlums (let’s be honest) did something mean enough to get a tiger really, really pissed. I think being hit in the head with a rock 9 inches in diameter would probably do it. (that is the size of a rock they found in the pit, along with a stick and a pine cone, which were not from trees in the pit)

It’s just like the ferris wheel. If you take loose the seatbelts and stand on top of the seat, you will probably fall and die.

If you throw rocks at the tiger and dangle your feed over the edge or try to climb into the pit, you will probably be tiger salad.

The zoo should not be held responsible monetarily or legally for asinine, thoughtless, life-risking acts done by patrons when there are posted signs restricting that behavior.

The tiger wasn’t hungry, else it could have gotten them all. It only ‘got’ the ones that actually threw something at it.

It did know who was who. Those who think tigers are not that smart should walk into a tiger pit, and call the tiger a dumbass to it’s face. Then, they would find out (like these young men did) just who the dumbass is.


270 posted on 01/04/2008 1:01:06 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: muawiyah
"Alas, the shoe I'm referring to was found OUTSIDE the enclosure ~ so whose is it? Where is he?"

I have no idea what you are talking about....No extra shoe has been found.

”We have obtained photographs of that shoe print and have all three pairs of shoes from the victims so we can conduct a forensic analysis,'' Fong said in a televised news conference.”

source

Now, unless you have a link that says otherwise....then you're just making stuff up.

271 posted on 01/04/2008 3:20:05 PM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: muawiyah
"Alas, the shoe I'm referring to was found OUTSIDE the enclosure ~ so whose is it? Where is he?"

I have no idea what you are talking about....No extra shoe has been found.

”We have obtained photographs of that shoe print and have all three pairs of shoes from the victims so we can conduct a forensic analysis,'' Fong said in a televised news conference.”

source

Now, unless you have a link that says otherwise....then you're just making stuff up.

272 posted on 01/04/2008 3:20:17 PM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: repinwi
Naw, it was in a story. However, the question was where the shoe was located, and it was found OUTSIDE the area of the enclosure. Just a loose shoe out there.

No one has discussed that shoe except to note it was OUTSIDE and didn't belong to the victims.

273 posted on 01/04/2008 3:25:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: UCANSEE2
The whole point of a zoo is to eliminate all life-risking situations so that folks can get close enough to the animals to see them.

They have to succeed on that very point.

Clearing your throat and having a lion think you are taunting it, and having him jump out and bite your head off really isn't supposed to be in the cards.

NO RISK means NO RISK. Otherwise no one will go to the zoos and there won't be any zoos.

274 posted on 01/04/2008 3:27:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Again, unless you can post the link - you're making stuff up. I have NEVER (in all the articles) read where there was this "extra" shoe found.

and have all three pairs of shoes from the victims"

Please stick with the facts and post links.

275 posted on 01/04/2008 3:52:49 PM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: muawiyah

You cannot design anything that can prevent every accident every time when the cause is deliberate human stupidity.


276 posted on 01/04/2008 3:56:47 PM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: muawiyah

“Clearing your throat and having a lion think you are taunting it, and having him jump out and bite your head off really isn’t supposed to be in the cards.”

If clearing your throat caused the tigers (not lion) to do that, it would have already happened over the past 60 years the tiger pit has been there in that zoo.

If there is a gorilla in a cage and it says “Do not stick hands in cage”, and you do, then you could get your arm ripped off.

These young men did something the caused a tiger to get really, really pissed off. Like hit in the head with a 9” rock. And likely climbed on top of the barrier or over it.

A tiger ,surging with adrenaline after being hit, can do amazing things.

Young men, drinking vodka, alone in the park, just before dark, throwing rocks at the animals, climbing over the pit wall.....

But... blame it on the zoo for making not making the pit IDIOT PROOF.


277 posted on 01/04/2008 4:27:03 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: muawiyah

“NO RISK means NO RISK. Otherwise no one will go to the zoos and there won’t be any zoos.”

If that were true, then places like DISNEYWORLD and SIX FLAGS wouldn’t exist.

There is no fun in an AMUSEMENT PARK if there are NO RISKS.

We pay money to be put into machines that stretch RISK to it’s limits. Sometimes something breaks, and people get hurt.

The difference is that they don’t SHOOT the ROLLERCOASTER after it kills someone.


278 posted on 01/04/2008 4:30:15 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: org.whodat

Were you being sarcastic? Just want to know before I say something sarcastic myself.


279 posted on 01/04/2008 4:47:16 PM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Revolting cat!
one of the victims had got the tiger by the tail, it was plain to see!

There you go, dragging Buck Owens into it! :=)
280 posted on 01/04/2008 4:59:22 PM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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