Posted on 01/01/2008 5:42:57 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
Tiger Attack Victims Hire High Profile Lawyer
Tuesday, Jan 1, 2008 @06:21pm CST
Two brothers who were injured by a tiger during a Christmas Day attack at the San Francisco Zoo have hired a high-profile lawyer.
The victims will be represented by defense attorney Mark Geragos whose previous clients have included Michael Jackson and actress Winona Ryder.
ABC News reports Geragos is expected to file suit against the zoo on behalf of Paul and Kulbir Dhaliwal. A friend, Carlos Sousa Jr., was killed in the same attack.
According to ABCNews.com, Geragos says of the attacks, quote,"there are some very disturbing facts yet to come about, about what happened."
He also cites revelations that the wall around the enclosure for the 350-lb tiger was nearly four-feet below industry recommendations.
In addition, Geragos called reports that the group had taunted the tiger ahead of the attack as "an urban legend."
The tiger was shot to death by police.
“There are some very disturbing facts yet to come out about what happened,” Geragos told ABCNews.com.”
So...let me get this straight. These punks have time to give the details to Geragos but NOT to the SFPD investigators.
Here’s my theory — they taunted the Tiger, and the Tiger jumped out, and clawed the first one it got to. The Brothers Punkamozov threw their 17-year-old “friend” at the Tiger to make their escape. Of course, now they paint the friend as a “hero” trying to save them.
My opinion only — your mileage may vary.
I agree. The brothers more than likely did something terrible. Why else refuse to cooperate with investigators? And they reportedly did have slingshots on them. I wonder what was their role in the death of their friend.
It doesn’t matter what motivation the tiger had to get out of the cage. The fencing was not adequate because a sufficiently motivated tiger could escape - this is clearly unnaceptable. As to your statements about the slingshots, if they were found in the victims car then they could not have been used at the zoo. I am shocked that so many people seem determined to turn the victims into the bad guys. Even if they did torment the tiger - which has not been shown - they did not deserve to be eaten and the zoo was negligent in designing an exhibit where a sufficiently motivated tiger could escape.
They were found on the perps. An empty vodka bottle was found in the car.
"I am shocked that so many people seem determined to turn the victims into the bad guys."
LOL! Victims my butt. Cruelty to animals is probably a felony in CA. One of the perps died during the commision of a felony. They should be charged with his death. CA law holds that they can't profit from the commission of a felony they perpetrated.
"Even if they did torment the tiger - which has not been shown - they did not deserve to be eaten and the zoo was negligent in designing an exhibit where a sufficiently motivated tiger could escape."
Sufficiently motivated here means being confined in cruel and/or tormenting conditions. As for the evidence the perps tormented the animal, the police aren't going to comment until reports are finalized and a trial is held. Nature already held a trial, and the perps were convicted, sentenced and the sentence was carried out. Too bad the tiger got the short end of the stick.
Cha Ching
How can you even say that when I know for a fact that you've read MY posts?!
They were out on bail for doing the same to 2 citizens out there and resisting arrest. It's unlikely they'd confess an dtell the truth, being shiftless criminals and all. I think the SFPD will obtain all the evidence they need, plus.
"Of course, now they paint the friend as a “hero” trying to save them."
The PD was the first to say that. Carlos had apparently stepped in to the attack on the older brother and the tiger turned her attention to him. The bros fled at that point and did not call 911 with their cell phone.
If the moat were filled with water and stocked with crocodiles, this never would have happened.
As has consistently been the case, your understanding of what happened is flawed. It’s been explained to you before that there were still other people in the zoo because “closing” just means they stop letting people in, not that everyone has to leave. (And Geragos claims that the attacks happened at 4;30, anyway.)
Only one news outlet has reported the slingshots and doesn’t identify their source, yet you treat them as established fact.
If you call 911, you have to explain to someone not on the premises what’s happening and convince them to send someone. I don’t find it surprising that the brothers instead ran to where they knew there were zoo employees and a a place they thought they could find shelter. Also, if you call 911 from a cell phone, you reach a regional calling center, not a local emergency dispatcher.
They weren’t ever in “some room with park officials”—the first 911 call came from someone at the cafe who had refused to let them in.
I’m enjoying your imaginary fictions, but maybe you should stop trying to tie them to easily checked “facts.”
“This was a case where the industry was inspecting itself, much like airport security did before 9/11. We now know that system does not work very well.”
Actually, there are many cases where such system works very well.
As if some kind of government nonsense is going to be better, and never subject to corruption.
1 such system was “the Code” in motion pictures. They did a good job policing themselves. Then it was dismantled to be replaced by meaningless “ratings”.
Another many oldsters would tell you about is AT&T/Bell, all by itself. Excellent instant service, quality, etc.
“5:13 paramedics refuse to enter until it’s safe”
Huh? What I’m hearing here is that the zoo wouldn’t let authorities in. This implies the A didn’t want to go in! Which is it?
Yeah, whatever. Let's see what you've got here.
"It’s been explained to you before that there were still other people in the zoo because “closing” just means they stop letting people in, not that everyone has to leave."
Closing time means you are to begin leaving the grounds. It does not mean those inside can wander about as they see fit. That includes waiting around for others to leave, so you can do mischief as you see fit. There was no more than 25 in there at the time. The tiger bothered none of them, or the zoo personel, even though they were available.
"And Geragos claims that the attacks happened at 4;30, anyway"
He's full of chit, since Carlos was bleeding out from a torn jugular and was alive at 5:20. Not only that, the 2 other geniuses with the slingshots were present when the zoo officials dialed 911 at 5:08.
"If you call 911, you have to explain to someone not on the premises what’s happening and convince them to send someone."
Yeah, I've done that before. It's extremely difficult. I can understand why the perps never called. The response time for the cops, paramedics and FD was 4mins when the zoo called. Luck I guess.
"I don’t find it surprising that the brothers instead ran to where they knew there were zoo employees and a a place they thought they could find shelter."
Shelter? Why did one of the perps leave that shelter when they were told not to?
"Also, if you call 911 from a cell phone, you reach a regional calling center, not a local emergency dispatcher."
Yeah, that's way too hard to deal with. You're right, they never would have figured out where they were at and who to send. No point in waisting time talking to a brain dead dispatcher.
"They weren’t ever in “some room with park officials”—the first 911 call came from someone at the cafe who had refused to let them in."
I see, the junk food vendor called. Is that the same junk food vendor that refused to let him in ~18 mins after the 911 call at 5:08, after he left the building. What did he do when he left the building, run around it until the tiger showed up? Note the call came after closing. The cafe is closed at 5:00. No one gets in after 5.
The zoo requested that the police not enter until the tiger was located. That request was made so the zoo staff could do the work and avoid a confrontation. The paramedics refused to enter period, until the tiger was located. The tiger was located at 5:17 and they all entered at that point. The only ine unaccounted for during that time was the uncooperative bro that left the safety of the zoo staff. The zoo staff and the cops had been tracking the tiger, when the formerly uncooperative clown perp showed up to be attacked at 5:26-27.
ooops... From the beginning the cops said there was probably some tormenting of the tiger involved. That was because they found something right away. What they found was most likely leaked by someone that thought it was important to know what actually went down.
I can’t post facts as fast as you can make chit up, so I guess I have to leave you to your imaginings. Best wishes for a fact-free new year!
I missed reading that. Link?
Good, Geragos the IDIOT almost always loses his high profiles. This is great news for the zoo and the poor tiger.
"Fong said a forensic team would attempt to match a shoeprint found on the railing of the San Francisco Zoo tiger enclosure with shoes taken from the three victims of the fatal Christmas day attack to determine if the men were taunting the animal before it struck."
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