Posted on 01/01/2008 6:26:03 AM PST by barryg
Edited on 01/01/2008 6:31:30 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
An empty vodka bottle was also found in a car used by Amritpal Dhaliwal, 19, and his brother, Kulbir, 23, on the day of the mauling, which left 17-year-old Carlos Sousa Jr. dead, according to the source.
The discoveries could be an indication that the brothers may have taunted the 350-pound Siberian tiger before it leapt from its grotto.
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This is the San Francisco Zoo, where the walls of the tiger enclosure were “short”. Not a normal enclosure. Not a normal zoo. Not a normal city.
Excellent analogy
I don’t think it’s as simple or straightforward as you make it out to be.
Suppose I have a 9 year old guard dog with signs posted: Keep Out and Beware of Dog. The dog is trained and has never left the yard. He’s only hurt one person. A few years ago he bit a small child who unwittingly pushed him and grabbed his food bowl while he was eating. The child recovered OK and, since this was the only bad incident, we didn’t euthanize the dog.
Now suppose some young men, perhaps drunk, stand outside my fence, in the dark, with a slingshot. They begin taunting the dog and pelting him with rocks. Some hit the dog, some hit the house. The dog becomes more and more agitated, snarling viciously at them through the fence. But they take no heed and continue yelling and pelting him.
So. If the dog jumps the fence and attacks them, who is at fault? Obviously, I would second guess my decision not to put the dog away earlier. But, really, what kind of idiot slings rocks at a viciously provoked animal? I would blame them more than myself.
Zoo officials are given one primary responsibility... keep animals and people separated so no one gets hurt.
They failed miserably.
If an agitated prisoner could escape this easily and go on a killing spree, we would be outraged.
they are idiots, but they should not have been allowed to do that.
Big, brave boys: I wonder how much they cried?
This is San Francisco. Of course these boys will get a cash settlement.
THE HANDLER made the mistake. Not the Tiger. Did you miss that part?
Yes, the boys were/are fools, idiots.
However,
They were TRAINED TO BE SO by their idiot . . . probably . . . fathers.
Please see my pontifications about
REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER
here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937650/posts
Healthy, well bonded kids would not think of doing something so foolish and destructive.
If your dog breaks its chain and attacks and kills a neighborhood boy, who may or may not have been taunting it, you would be held responsible.
You may claim a defense of: “This chain is strong enough as long as nobody makes him mad.”
But you would lose your case.
There was a report from a retired Zoo-keeper from that zoo....said that he and a co-worker discovered a tiger walking on the top fence...thay shouted at it and the tiger jumped back.
He said they filled the moat to 4 ft depth.
Some years later the tiger died of natural causes and the Zoo got some new tigers.....as they were young the moat was drained....but never re-filled.
Capron Park Zoo ... ah, memories. How about that Sun Bear, the one constantly swimming and looking like he was in desperate trouble? Seemed monthly there was an article or news story from the zookeepers, telling the public that the bear liked to swim and that he was perfectly content. I suppose he is long gone by now.
Question: When is a moat not a moat, but a ditch?
When there is no water in the ditch.
I wish they would stop calling it a moat.
I heard that there was never any water in the “moat”.
Don't make stuff up, they were in the car.
The question here is who had legal authority to search the car.
Are you referring to the handler whose arm was mauled? I did not know about his making a mistake. What happened?
It was posted here just a few days ago that a retire keeper said one was found walking on top of the wall about twenty years ago and that water was put in the moat until that cat died.
My solution ....... shut down the damn zoo, and deny the kids any kind of lawsuit. Problem solved. ;^)
First, if that happened, the least of my concerns would be the lawsuit. I would be overwhelmed with guilt.
But I still think you miss my point. I carefully described a scene far different from some "neighborhood boy" casually walking by and having the dog suddenly snap its chain and attack. The provocation makes a difference. Who among us can say what our dog would do if someone started torturing it, especially if he feared they were trying to invade his territory?
Frosty is stuffed and in the new entrance alcove. The Zoo and park are actually much improved over the last twenty years.
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