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Zoo Director Says Tiger Wall Was Low (Moat Was Empty)
AP ^ | 12/28/07

Posted on 12/28/2007 5:54:37 AM PST by Mr. Brightside

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Cops: Tiger Attack Victim Helped Friend

By JORDAN ROBERTSON and MARCUS WOHLSEN

Associated Press Writers

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -

The last minutes of a 17-year-old boy's life were spent trying to save his friend from a brutal tiger mauling at the San Francisco Zoo, only to have the animal turn on him, police and family members said.

Carlos Sousa Jr. and his friend's brother desperately tried to distract the 350-pound Siberian tiger, but the big cat instead came after Sousa.

"He didn't run. He tried to help his friend, and it was him who ended up getting it the worst," the teen's father, Carlos Sousa Sr., said Thursday after meeting with police.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2007/dec/28/122801861.html

1 posted on 12/28/2007 5:54:38 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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So he succeeded in saving his friends life? That’s heroic.


3 posted on 12/28/2007 6:02:36 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Duh.. empty moat... tigers are great swimmers. It damn well had better have been empty...


4 posted on 12/28/2007 6:05:05 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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Water is no deterrence to an assault tiger.

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5 posted on 12/28/2007 6:10:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Why, why wasn't this protected right? I want some answers," said the dead teenager's father.
As for the zoo, "They know what they did wrong, they know what they did."

Calling for the Breck Girl before the kid is even buried.
6 posted on 12/28/2007 6:11:59 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
I think the father has a very good case for negligence on the part of the zoo. Read this:

Marian Roth-Cramer recalled the day she and her son, who was 4 or 5, visited the tiger exhibit in 1997.

"My son had his hands on the metal bar," said the San Francisco woman, a children's dance and family programs coordinator at a branch of the YMCA. "All of a sudden, I saw the tiger leap over the moat, put a paw on the dirt (and hang on). I screamed and grabbed my son."

The animal slid away. She turned to a zookeeper and asked if he'd seen what she had. His reply: "She always does that. She hates my guts."

She wrote a letter to David Anderson, the zoo director at the time, about the incident and canceled her membership. She said she never got a reply.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/27/MN39U4TQ5.DTL

7 posted on 12/28/2007 6:16:28 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: cripplecreek
Water is no deterrence to an assault tiger.

The tigers may have enjoyed water in the moat. But I think the point of water in the moat is it would prevent the cat from being able to ~jump~ up the wall.

8 posted on 12/28/2007 6:19:10 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: cripplecreek; xcamel

Thanks for the picture to make my point.

I doubt whether a tiger could jump a 16 foot wall if it is launching from a 6 foot moat.

Most Olympic high jumpers could not leap as high if they were forced to jump from the bottom of a swimming pool.


9 posted on 12/28/2007 6:21:10 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: HairOfTheDog; Mr. Brightside

I suspect you’re both correct about the real reason for the water.


10 posted on 12/28/2007 6:25:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Funny how the news organizations first indicated the wall was 20ft, then 18ft, and now 12.5ft.


11 posted on 12/28/2007 6:25:21 AM PST by jaydubya2
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The wall was only 12.5 feet high? Well, no wonder the tiger got out!!!! I’ve seen a coyote hop a 10 foot block fence with no problem—they’re MUCH smaller than a tiger & are not supposed to be particularly good climbers.

If you stretch a full-grown tiger out from tippy toe to tippy toe, that’s got to be at least eight feet.

Sheesh.......


12 posted on 12/28/2007 6:30:06 AM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: Mr. Brightside

If any tiger had previously escaped, I might agree. However, we still don’t know all the facts and there remains the possibility the three victims may have contributed to their own demise.


13 posted on 12/28/2007 6:30:18 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: jaydubya2

Why is that funny?


14 posted on 12/28/2007 6:31:28 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: RooRoobird20
If you stretch a full-grown tiger out from tippy toe to tippy toe, that’s got to be at least eight feet.

Actually, the article says that a full grown Siberian tiger can stretch 12 feet.

15 posted on 12/28/2007 6:31:56 AM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Mr. Brightside

That’s pretty damning.


16 posted on 12/28/2007 6:34:03 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Mr. Brightside

Moat??? Tigers can swim...


17 posted on 12/28/2007 6:34:03 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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"It was so high, nothing living could escape that wall, I tell you."
18 posted on 12/28/2007 6:34:57 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Zechariah11

“Actually, the article says that a full grown Siberian tiger can stretch 12 feet.”

The wall is 12.5 feet high, a full-grown tiger can reach 12 feet stretched out. Did no one put these two pieces of information together before opening the exhibit?

The zoo better have good liability insurance.


19 posted on 12/28/2007 6:36:42 AM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: oh8eleven

I don’t care whether the boys taunted the tiger or not.

The enclosure should have kept the tiger in. And the zoo is at fault for not doing it.


20 posted on 12/28/2007 6:36:45 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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