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Human Role Not Ruled Out in Tiger Attack
MyWay/Drudge ^ | 12-26-2007 | robertson

Posted on 12/27/2007 10:18:04 AM PST by wardaddy

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The big cat exhibit at the San Francisco Zoo was cordoned off as a crime scene Wednesday as investigators tried to determine whether a Siberian tiger that killed a visitor escaped from its high-walled pen on its own or got help from someone, inadvertent or otherwise.

Police shot the 300-pound animal to death after a Christmas Day rampage that began when the tiger escaped from an enclosure surrounded by what zoo officials said are an 18-foot wall and a 20-foot moat. Two brothers who also were visiting the zoo were severely mauled.

Police Chief Heather Fong said the department has opened a criminal investigation to "determine if there was human involvement in the tiger getting out or if the tiger was able to get out on its own."

Police said they have not ruled anything out, including whether the escape was the result of carelessness or a deliberate act.

(AP) Tatiana, a female Siberian tiger that killed one person and injured two others, is seen in the lion... Full Image

Fong said officers were gathering evidence from the tiger's enclosure as well as accounts from witnesses and others.

One zoo official insisted the tiger did not get out through an open door and must have climbed or leaped out. But Jack Hanna, former director of the Columbus Zoo and a frequent guest on TV, said such a leap would be an unbelievable feat, and "virtually impossible."

"There's something going on here. It just doesn't feel right to me," he said. "It just doesn't add up to me."

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: humancompassion; maul; sf; tiger; zoo
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To: Royal Wulff

There was a leg in that area and that tiger took a shoe as a souvenir...


261 posted on 12/27/2007 2:55:51 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: atomic conspiracy

“According to the article, the enclosure was built in 1940, which might well explain the inadequate idiot-proofing.”

Sadly it took 67 years to grow the right idiot that could exploit the enclosure’s weakness... !


262 posted on 12/27/2007 2:57:03 PM PST by biscuit jane
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To: Royal Wulff

rebommend not REQUIRED big difference


263 posted on 12/27/2007 2:59:24 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
"A .40 round would kill a tiger with a headshot no problem. "

I think there were four police present at the time, from most events down here in LA that means one lucky shot to the head, maybe a couple into flanks, and 40-plus dead trees, wounded rocks, and new vents in the snack stand.

264 posted on 12/27/2007 3:01:06 PM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice)
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To: biscuit jane

Major cities consider it a gift to the poor, and is usually free that day


265 posted on 12/27/2007 3:05:30 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: biscuit jane

Major cities consider it a gift to the poor, and is usually free that day


266 posted on 12/27/2007 3:05:34 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So it's even more dangerous

To taunt a hippopotamous?

267 posted on 12/27/2007 3:07:20 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: antivenom

Oh okay free admission because it is CHristmas.


268 posted on 12/27/2007 3:11:49 PM PST by biscuit jane
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To: Mamzelle

YUP


269 posted on 12/27/2007 3:15:33 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: biscuit jane

I am petty sure that here in Houston it is a free day...may be that way in SF...


270 posted on 12/27/2007 3:19:10 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: MizSterious

See post 169.


271 posted on 12/27/2007 3:19:52 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: rwfromkansas

See post 169.


272 posted on 12/27/2007 3:20:08 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: HairOfTheDog
And shooting a loose big cat with a tranquilizer gun (which takes time to take effect, I will remind you) would be a very big unnecessary risk.

And female forest rangers use tranquilizer guns to take down Grizzly Bears for health checks and fitting radio collars, imagine that? As for taking down a tiger with a pistol I know a lot of hunters who would take a pass on that as too dangerous. I'll make the same point as you do regarding the tranquilizer guns, unless you are very lucky the animal is going to live for a time and make your life very interesting. By lucky I mean a heart, brain, or spinal cord shot. I seen white tail deer shot through the "boiler room" with a 30-06 run for a couple of miles. I seen others drop where they stood. That's not a chance you want to take by being under gunned.

Regards,
GtG

273 posted on 12/27/2007 3:21:56 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Fawn
"Fawn, while I agree it is human failing that brought the cat to it’s death, I do not for a minute blame the officers who had to act."

It's an unpleasant reality, and applies to 'innocent by insanity' defenses as well, but regardless of the 'how', it is society's obligation to put an end to the threat.

The cat was, in fact, innocent; she was simply being a cat.
The cat was innocent; she was not able to choose where she was when the kids showed up, she was not able to rely on protection from others.
The cat was innocent; she relied on instinctive defense measures - attack if you cannot retreat - generally good advice for humans as well.

But ultimately, judging an angry, blooded, tiger to be a threat to additional citizens, and themselves, the cops had no choice. Besides, much like the cat, they also acted on instincts developed in the course of their duties - difference is that we license police to use force - zoo animals don't have that benefit.

274 posted on 12/27/2007 3:24:22 PM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
And female forest rangers use tranquilizer guns to take down Grizzly Bears for health checks and fitting radio collars, imagine that?

At close range?

Never mind all the silly arguments about what was more dangerous that what. The fact is the cops have to deal with whatever they're called in to deal with and they did. Listening to you, it's unlikely the cat is even dead. Well, it is dead, and they shot it. What are we debating?

275 posted on 12/27/2007 3:25:37 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: lapster
Of course, if it was Hispanci gang-related, it’s a truth we will likely never be told.

Those two will be facing homicide charges, and I'm pretty sure the police knows how to get to the truth in such cases. These guys had ho chance to get their stories straight, and even if they did they couldn't possibly think of every detail.

276 posted on 12/27/2007 3:27:40 PM PST by Greysard
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To: HairOfTheDog

As if the police are “trained” for irrational tiger behavior....


278 posted on 12/27/2007 3:31:35 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

As if the police are “trained” for irrational tiger behavior....


279 posted on 12/27/2007 3:31:41 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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