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Trail of blood apparently led escaped tiger to victims
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Dec 27, 2007 | Kevin Fagen, Jaxon Van Derbeken, Steve Rubenstein, Cecila Vega

Posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:20 AM PST by fignewton

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To: RedMonqey
Was the original zoo keeper, you know the one that got her arm torn off, a "weak or sick human"

Yes. Or at least she acted like she was. She made a mistake around a large viscious animal and was lucky to survive it's reaction.

There were obviously a lot of other keepers around the tiger for many consecutive days after it's attack on one of it's keepers, and yet it didn't attack them. Why? Because they didn't break their training and the animal was not allowed to react as it would towards a potential food source.

161 posted on 12/27/2007 12:30:16 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Judith Anne

What do you want to bet that their statements will never shed light on what they did or how this happened? I bet they have lawyered up and the zoo and everybody in sight will be subjuct to a law suit!


162 posted on 12/27/2007 12:40:31 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: dschapin
"Most animals have a natural fear of humans."

Tigers, cougars, grizz and polar bears do not.

"When an animal has successfully attacked a human this fear is removed and it begins to view humans as normal prey. "

Humans are prey to tigers, cougars and polar bears. They'll hunt them.

"If we quit sympathizing with such animals and instead killed every animal that mauled a human we would have many less of these attacks."

This animal was in a zoo. The ones that were bitten were morons that stuck they're arms in the cage, or taunted the cat into a fit of rage. There is no justification to shoot an animal, because it acts according to it's nature when morons give it an incentive.

163 posted on 12/27/2007 12:42:15 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; RedMonqey

Unlike many “maneaters” tigers don’t go just for the sick or the weak. I suggest reading “The Maneaters of Kumaon” be Jim Corbett. In northern India in the 20’s and 30’s he was called on to hunt down several tigers who had been snacking on any local they could find. One had a tally of over 400 victims, and that’s just the one’s they knew about.

Corbett was highly skilled, and nearly had his own hash settled on more than one occasion by these cats.


164 posted on 12/27/2007 12:52:45 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Judith Anne

“I wonder what the men in the hospital are saying.”

OH S$#! what were we thinking!!!!??


165 posted on 12/27/2007 12:53:30 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Red_Devil 232
"What do you want to bet that their statements will never shed light on what they did or how this happened? I bet they have lawyered up and the zoo and everybody in sight will be subjuct to a law suit!"

There's going to be evidence of the stuff they threw in the cage. Some might even have finger prints on it. Then their will be finger prints on the bars where the kid(s) went over. Those prints will be facing the wrong way and appear above hte blood spatters on the inside of the cage wall. They'll also be cat scratches on the wall, where the cat went up.

The zoo will be able to show the cage was good enough for normal holding, but not for holding a taunted animal. These morons were yelling and tossing stuff at the cat, thinking the cat wouldn't be able to respond. I don't see cat cage engineers considering that scenario. Any lawsuit should be dismissed as frivolous.

166 posted on 12/27/2007 12:59:31 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets; Red_Devil 232

I’ve read reports there were witnesses to at least some of the taunting.


167 posted on 12/27/2007 1:01:43 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
There were obviously a lot of other keepers around the tiger ......and yet it didn't attack them. Why?

IMHO,it probably has been "testing" its keepers all along to see how the humans would react and see if it could challege it. If an tiger thinks of humans as another predator, either they (humans) are potentially harmful or it could intimidate them (humans) for control of this territory. Conversely if it sees them (humans) as prey it will look for opportunities to take down that potential food source. As it matured an tiger will act upon the instincts nature has honed in it for survival over millions of years. Happens in nature. Happens in zoos and if you have pets it happens in your own home.

Eventually an opportunity opened up and it took full advance of a simple but deadly moment of inattentiveness of its keepers, gap in cage, reacted quicker than expected, was too near an open door, portal etc. The list is endless.

Humans made mistakes because, well they're humans.
168 posted on 12/27/2007 1:04:11 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: driftdiver

I heard that there were witnesses also. Where are they? Usually when something like this happens ... high profile story and MSM coverage ... witness jump at being interviewed by the media. I wonder where they are?


169 posted on 12/27/2007 1:08:26 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

“I heard that there were witnesses also. Where are they? Usually when something like this happens ... high profile story and MSM coverage ... witness jump at being interviewed by the media. I wonder where they are?”

If they exist they will be on TV shortly. Unless of course the witnesses were involved in the crime. Yes a crime, as soon as you go beyond the approved boundary you are trespassing. Taunting would be animal cruelty in addition to felony stupidity.


170 posted on 12/27/2007 1:13:20 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"...several tigers who had been snacking on any local they could find. One had a tally of over 400 victims, ..."

Sounds like the tigers definitely developed a taste for Humans, the other white meat.

(Sorry I couldn't help myself)
171 posted on 12/27/2007 1:13:36 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: RedMonqey

Well, long pig is slow, stupid, easy to catch, and doesn’t fight back well.


172 posted on 12/27/2007 1:14:35 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: driftdiver

I have a vision of chimpansees on an African plain screaming, jumping up and down, tossing rocks and sticks at a big cat. Then the cat goes nuts... Witnesses would be good. I think they would have kept a distance though and scooted out of there soon after seeing what the miscreants were up to.


173 posted on 12/27/2007 1:20:17 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: driftdiver

I think the MSM wants the animal crulty charge placed on the tiger. She was inhuman!


174 posted on 12/27/2007 1:21:55 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: RedMonqey
"white meat"

red meat...

175 posted on 12/27/2007 1:24:13 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: LIConFem

Yep

Add Timothy “Grizzly bear kibble” Treadwell to that list of deluded eco idiots who anthropomorphization serve only to endanger themselves and the very animals they pretend to protect.


176 posted on 12/27/2007 1:28:12 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: spunkets

Just joking....;-)


177 posted on 12/27/2007 1:29:47 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: All

Just reported the fence is only 12.5 feet high...not as tall as recommended.


178 posted on 12/27/2007 1:31:28 PM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

And tastes “just like chicken”..


179 posted on 12/27/2007 1:31:59 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: RedMonqey

And your point is again?

Yes, tigers are dangerous. Yes, they are constantly looking for ways to harm other creatures around them. No, they should not be put down in a zoo situation when one of it’s keepers makes a mistake.


180 posted on 12/27/2007 1:45:25 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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