'Roid Rage
(on top of being a total j---off).
Posted on 12/13/2007 7:18:21 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
This just ran across the ESPN News scroll...
"A source close to a former Yankees strength trainer tells ESPN The Magazine's Shawn Assael that the trainer told Mitchell investigators he supplied Roger Clemens with steroids; information supplied by this trainer is in the Mitchell report. According to one industry official who spoke to [the] Bergen Record, 'several' prominent Yankees will be named in the Mitchell report."
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
Did he just compare Clemens with the IRA thugs?
Neither was Tavarez’s name.
A lot of good it did Gagne and Giambi when they were with the Sox :)
anyone have a yankees list.
Sites Clemens as starting in 1998 (in Toronto)
found this gem under his awards/accomplishements:
1998 ESPY: Comeback of the Year
Guess we know how he had such a great comeback, huh?
Not neccessarily. Depends on the actual drug, the dose, the timing, how long someone is "on", how long he is off (how he "cycles").
Truth is, smart steroid use isn't neccessarily as bad as it is portrayed, but that statement is surely unPC..
“HGH is not a steroid. It is very useful in healing from injuries and thousands of MDs nationwide prescribe it for their (non-athlete) patients every single day. Women need growth hormones as well, to help ward off Lupus, MS and other ailments of menopause. To castigate ball players for using HGH is just silly. Everyone who needs it should be able to use it.”
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There are (generally) two kinds of steroids. Corticosteroids, like cortisone, are given to relieve inflamation. Thats what you got probably. Anabolic Steroids make you big, strong, and heal faster. Thats what they are talking about here.
I remember living outside DC in the late ‘80s, during the heyday of Hogmania with the Redskins, and seeing some of them in bars around town (gotta love walking into a restaurant during the off-season and seeing R.C. Thielmann and Donny Warren slamming beers at the bar...at lunch!). They were big, but they weren’t freakish like the players today. The biggest of the Hogs was left tackle Joe Jacoby, at around 6’6”, 305. None of the rest of them were over 300 pounds. Hell, Jeff Bostic wasn’t much over 250, IIRC, and he played forever in the league at guard and center. Those guys were the dominant offensive line in the league for several years in the ‘80s, and nowadays, they’d ALL, except for Jacoby, be considered “undersized.” And 6’6” and 305 is nothing to even blink at in the modern NFL.
I went to college with Charles Haley. Again, a big guy in amazing physical condition, but not freakish. He played linebacker at our I-AA school at about 230-240, and didn’t get all that much bigger when he went to the 49ers and later the Cowboys at defensive end. I’d be surprised nowadays if a 250-pound defensive end, even somebody with Haley’s crazy speed and quickness, could survive for long in the NFL.
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You’re missing some Red Sox on that list. Without checking back to the list, I notice you’re missing Nomar, Carl Everett, Johnny Damon . . . and ?
Really!
I just called my sister in NH and she only recognized Mo Vaughn’s name... she was like: “Oh whatever... I’m busy right now... why the govt would waste a darn red cent on this report is beyond me... Goodbye!”
Free agent Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte of the New York Yankees, Miguel Tejada of the Houston Astros, Eric Gagne of the Milwaukee Brewers and Paul Lo Duca of the Washington Nationals were among the most prominent former and current All-Stars to be mentioned in the lengthy report, which spans 311 pages, plus multiple exhibits, including evidence of signed checks, handwritten notes and shipping receipts.
The players listed in the paragraph above are by no means the only players listed in the report, but in MLB.com’s first, quick review of the document, those names stood out for their notoriety. Our coverage will continue minute-by-minute through the course of the proceedings and for the foreseeable future thereafter, but the entire report is available for viewing here at MLB.com in PDF format. It will be presented in a searchable, clickable version as soon as the 311 pages of content can be converted appropriately.
Looks like small potatoes and some of the more significant instances were happening after they left the Sox.
So here’s my question. At what point did using steroids and/or HGH become against the rules in MLB? If MLB allowed the use of the drugs in, say, 2000, and Clemens used them, and they were legally prescribed, then I’m sort of missing the massive scandal here. Yes, they should not have BEEN allowed, but the fact is, they were up until fairly recently.
The scandal isn’t so much the individual players, as it is the MLBPA blocking every attempt to get the substances banned and get a stronger testing regimen in place.
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Those names are not in the report...
Many of the players were purchasing them without prescriptions. You can’t get a script for ‘Roids like they were being taken.
Wally Joyner, how weird is that....
'Roid Rage
(on top of being a total j---off).
Probably because they aren’t in the report.
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