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Microsoft Partners: MinWin Could Soothe Vista Headaches
CRN ^ | november 30th | Kevin McLaughlin

Posted on 12/03/2007 5:49:45 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

In the year that has passed since Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) released Windows Vista to business users, the operating system has gained a reputation in the channel as a bloated memory hog that many companies are avoiding like a trip to the dentist.

But Microsoft partners have a more positive opinion of Windows 7, the next generation of Windows that Microsoft expects to ship in the 2010 timeframe. That's because Windows 7 will be based on MinWin, a scaled down version of the Windows core that will also serve as the framework for Windows Server and Windows Media Center.

MinWin's source code base takes up about 25 megabytes on disk, compared to about 4 gigabytes for Vista. Solution providers see this as a sign that Microsoft has learned its lesson from trying to cram too much into the Windows OS, and some feel that Windows 7 will be a roaring success in the market.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microshaft; microsoft; minwin; nexttimeforsure; vista; vistafailure; windows; windowsmillennium
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To: KoRn

I use telnet to program some of the VSAT modems I work with. Had to copy it from my one of my XP installs in order to have it on my Vista laptop.


21 posted on 12/03/2007 10:41:49 AM PST by Noumenon (Liberalism itself is a hate crime)
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To: zeugma
Granted, without a really good reason to use it on a completely isolated network, anyone who runs a telnet daemon deserves to be strung up over a vat of boiling oil and slowly lowered into it.

You can watch Star Wars in ASCII art over Telnet.

telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl

22 posted on 12/03/2007 11:17:22 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ShadowAce

Okay, have they learned some lessons from Linux? ;)


23 posted on 12/03/2007 11:23:15 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: KoRn
I sometimes use telnet for troubleshooting email servers, connecting to port 25 to work with Postfix.

yup. exactly. The telnet client is an extremely useful troubleshooting tool. This is one of the reasons I'm trying to find out if rumors of it's demise in Vista are premature.

24 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:23 AM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: antiRepublicrat
You can watch Star Wars in ASCII art over Telnet.

Been there. Done that.

Ahhhh. ASCII porn... brings back memories.
 

25 posted on 12/03/2007 11:36:33 AM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: Noumenon
I use telnet to program some of the VSAT modems I work with. Had to copy it from my one of my XP installs in order to have it on my Vista laptop.

I'll take that as confirmation. Sometimes Microsoft is more stupid than can even be imagined by us mere mortals. 

26 posted on 12/03/2007 11:37:38 AM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: dayglored

Oh, gotcha. I missed that. I wonder why the heck they would compare source code size. Must never have built the new one yet, I guess.


27 posted on 12/03/2007 4:38:07 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: KoRn

Ping? What is this “ping” you speak of? ;-) JK


28 posted on 12/03/2007 4:39:33 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: zeugma
I've a question for whoever out there might be unlucky enough to be burdened with the MS-Vista OS. Did Microsoft really remove the telnet program?

Presenting a command shell via telnet is reckless. On the other hand, telnet is just fine for some low-security purposes like retro-BBS games. Sure the passwords are sent in the clear, but that's true of 90% of web passwords anyway (well, the latter are base64 encoded, but may as well be in the clear).

29 posted on 12/03/2007 10:49:27 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: zeugma
I've a question for whoever out there might be unlucky enough to be burdened with the MS-Vista OS. Did Microsoft really remove the telnet program?

No they didnt. Its still available from the Programs "add/remove features" area in the control panel.

30 posted on 12/07/2007 1:17:33 PM PST by smith288 (Ohio State, close to being 2007 NCAA Champs)
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To: smith288; KoRn
No they didnt. Its still available from the Programs "add/remove features" area in the control panel.

Interesting. Korn said he'd had to copy it from an XP install (post 21) 

31 posted on 12/07/2007 1:28:55 PM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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